Make new option "Show as menu" more usable

[Matthias030]

The ability to use pull down menus in menu bar is a great new feature. Until now I was using the tool "TC menu" for realising this.
(http://www.mgpsoft.net/Downloads/TCMenu20b17.zip)

Now I want to place a submenu into a menu in the way, that the submenu is shown with a small triangle an expanded by mouse hovering.

For illustrating I made a screenshot of my Menu Bar realised by TC Menu.
Image http://s11b.directupload.net/images/090420/dq4pd2k3.jpg

Also the ability to use dividers with describing text to organize the submenus would be fine.

[fenix_productions]

2Matthias030
It's not currently possible but has been proposed in private beta. I hope we'll see it one day

[ghisler(Author)]

You can have submenus within the button bar menu, but they will open as individual menus. The reason for that it that a button can point recursively to itself, which would make it very difficult to handle such infinitely nested menus.

[jjk]

Matthias030 said :

The ability to use pull down menus in menu bar is a great new feature.

I saw nowhere that new feature. Where do I find it in the help file ? How to use it ?
Thanks in advance.

[Clo]

2jjk

Hello !

• That's shortly described in the Help >> Configuration >> Button bar >>
Dialogue to change the button bar >> [×] Show as Menu.

- You may get some details from the Tutorial, just click the link in my signature, download and install the CHM document >>
Click a numbered button on the Interface image (at right) and scroll the page…
- It isn't online directly yet, this will come soon…

 KR
Claude
Clo

[Vansumsen]

All

I just uploaded the Tuto @ http://marmouset.atspace.com/helptc/index.htm
That might work online too now !

Paul

[Clo]

Vansumsen

Hello Paul !

Ah ! Thanks ! It's really very soon !

All

- BTW :   That's only a “first juice” of the updated Tuto, we will have to check and complete it again,
so don't wonder whether some new items are missing (i.e. in the INC file chapter).

KR¦Friendly,
Claude
Clo

[jjk]

2 Clo and Vansumsen
Thank to you both.
I will try that ASAP.

[ND]

You can have submenus within the button bar menu, but they will open as individual menus.

Such is also the behavior of TC Menu, so no problem there.

Now I want to place a submenu into a menu in the way, that the submenu is shown with a small triangle an expanded by mouse hovering.

I would also prefer to have the little arrow-thing as suggested, even when opening a separate/individual menu.

If this is not possible for whatever reason (e.g. menuitem cannot be drawn by Windows with arrow-thing like a menu), there was a workaround which I used also in TC Menu: append to the menuitem name the chars Tab-SquareBrace-GreaterThan ("]>" will be right-aligned and looks close enough to the arrow-thing for me).

Unfortunatelly, TC does not display anything after the Tab character (ASCII code 09), and I even tried using \t instead (which might be a better implementation since it's conform with MNU syntax), but no luck. Currently I'm using a bunch of spaces to right-align the pseudo-arrow, but I cannot get it to be truly right-aligned (there's always some space left until the menu's right-border, I guess for displaying a hotkey?).

Maybe I should report the tab-char-code problem in the bugs section...

[Matthias030]

You can have submenus within the button bar menu, but they will open as individual menus. The reason for that it that a button can point recursively to itself, which would make it very difficult to handle such infinitely nested menus.

I hope i understand you correctly. But why not to forbid a button to recursively point to itself? I don't know for what this behaviour is good for. If you add a button into pulldown1.bar to call another bar (pulldown1_child1.bar), you can check if the filenames are equal or not. Are the menubars identically then TC gives a message, that this operation is not allowed.

Then we would profit from buttonbars which can arranged with a tree-structure and there would be no longer use for "TC Menu".

[jjk]

2 Clo and Vansumsen
Thank you for your tutos. I had some pain to find how to add a menu button, but finally I found it in your tutos.

[Clo]

2jjk

Hello !

• Glad to hear that it helped you !
- During these last days, we have updated the Tutos again, hunting lacunaæ and typos…
- It's already available @ download, and “online” too soon (probably tonight or tomorrow…).
- Actually, we can add such details, tips, remaks and so on (and many images) because we don't care about the size.
- However, it's getting very big, so we have to find out a solution for future TC major versions…

 KR
Claude
Clo