AmpView 3.2 beta 10 - Experimental MIDI support.

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AmpView 3.2 beta 10 - Experimental MIDI support.

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Hi!

I read long time ago that AmpView should support MIDI. I have never gotten it to work though. It always shows a playback progressbar but no sound is coming. I once even posted a thread here about this. Someone told me to check my sndvol32.exe volumes right. Sure did. It wasn't the case. I then thought it could be that my snd card was somewhat old and not supported. However, today I'm sitting on another computer and it's still the same. I then ran across something interesting in the WhatsNew section on the AmpView download page:
Version 3.2 beta 5 [18 dec 2006]
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+ Experimental midi support (installed sound-fonts is needed)
Perhaps this could be my missing piece of the puzzle. What d'ya all say? If this is the case, could someone please give me an helping hand on a simple way to install "default-like" soundfonts, to make the .mid's I play sound sort of like when I play them in mplayer2.exe/wmplayer.exe/winamp.exe/whatever, you get the drill.

Ty in adv.
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Just recently I started using Ampview, mainly because I wanted to play OGG files with F3.
Before that, I used F3 too for having a quick listen to MID files. So I checked.
And indeed, a moving slider, no sound.
Strange, while the install also adds a bassmidi.dll file with Ampview.

So to me Ampview wins some and looses some. Quite disappointing.

After disabling Ampview again, F3 played the .mid correctly of course.
But I know that this is done with a slimmed OS player, so maybe this player has less trouble
with finding the appropriate sound-fonts.

When I updated the BASS files, Ampview just produced an error beep.
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Sam_Zen wrote:When I updated the BASS files, Ampview just produced an error beep.
You may not do this, because different BASS versions are not fully compatible. You must use all BASS modules only of the version pointed in AmpView`s readme. IIRC that was 2.3 .
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Post by *Postkutscher »

2gewone
Try to play with the driver disk of your soundcard. These soundfonts must be there.
And yes, check your version of BASS and it`s midi module too.
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Post by *Nik_vr »

You need to download original archive of AmpView here: totalcmd. net/plugring/ampview.html.

Old BASS version don't work correctly in old AmpView (need to recompile). Sorry.
I make new version, include new BASS, in this year (now i don't have free time).

Soundfonts is installerd with soundcard's drivers (Creative, for example). To intagrated sound (Realtek and other) you need to install therd-party Soundfonts.

Regards, Nikolay Petrochenko, AmpView's author.

PS. Sorry for my bad english.
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Nik_vr wrote:Soundfonts is installerd with soundcard's drivers (Creative, for example). To intagrated sound (Realtek and other) you need to install therd-party Soundfonts.
Yes. I have Realtek mobo-integrated audio (ACL1200). Anyways, isn't there a way to make AmpView use the same "default Windoze soundfonts" (?) as WMP and others use? I don't even know if Realtek _has_ any "own" soundfonts. I saw an app "Synthfont" to modify/create own such "soundfonts" (if I've understood its description right, that is;p), but that seems a little bit over the edge for just getting simple MIDI playback?
Also, yes, I do understand the concept of MIDI files, how the actual files only contain instructions therefor the small filesizes eg. However, like I said, I'm curious if it shouldn't be some easy way to make it just "rollback" to Win-default? ..'cuz not even old W9x needed 3rd-party-soundfonts to play town.mid at mplayer2.exe, right? ;o
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I make new version of AmpView. Now it support BASS 2.4 and his plugins.

totalcmd. net/plugring/ampview .html
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Thank you for the updated version, Nikolay. :wink:
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Post by *WhACKO »

Great, thank you for updating to the latest bass libraries.

But now I have a problem, AmpView.wlx only opens the default media extensions like .mp3, is there a way to make it open .flac, .mp4, everything the bass extensions allow?
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in version 3.3 beta 1,
it seems the function "OnEndAction" doesn't work ?
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WhACKO wrote: But now I have a problem, AmpView.wlx only opens the default media extensions like .mp3, is there a way to make it open .flac, .mp4, everything the bass extensions allow?
Try to edit wincmd.ini (add your extensions):
0=...\AmpView\AmpView.wlx
0_detect="MULTIMEDIA | EXT="MP3" | EXT="OGG" | EXT="WAV" |EXT="WMA" | EXT="MID" | EXT="MIDI" | EXT="KAR" | EXT="M3U""
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liuxb wrote:in version 3.3 beta 1,
it seems the function "OnEndAction" doesn't work ?
I try to find this bug and fix in new version.
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Big ty for the update Nik_vr! I've always liked this plugin. Given it's "baseline" is sort of like the native [non-bloat] Winamp, which is quite marvelous since Winamp has grown to become borderline-bloatware over its years of development.

However, them .MID files still seems to be the itch in the coffin. Now, as soon as I hit F3 on a MID file I can see AmpView flash up for ~200ms before it (execution error??) shuts down and that's all she wrote.. Does this have something to do with the fact that I havn't got any "soundfonts" installed, apart from the (Windoze-builtin??) ones that mmedia/wmplayer/mpc/everything else DirectShow-wise uses.

If this is the case, could you please state just a narrow guideline on how to install such soundfonts to make .MID playback work w/ AmpView. Would be much appricated! ;)
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