[TC8ß10]: InplaceOkButton missing from the helpfile

[karlchen]

Hello, Christian.

Thank you for adding the new InplaceOkButton.

21.11.11 Added: wincmd.ini [Configuration] InplaceOkButton=0 turns off the button to confirm the inplace rename (32/64)

Nevertheless, I would like to complain that neither the English helpfile, nor the German helpfile explain about the new parameter InplaceOkButton. (4.b wincmd.ini).

Kind regards,
Karl

[ghisler(Author)]

This wasn't documented yet because I wanted to hear your feedback about it first.

[Samuel]

Perhaps an additional InplaceCancelButton could improve the difference between TC and Explorer:

TC:

• "Return" renames the file
• click on another file in the panel cancels renaming
• "ESC" cancels renaming

Explorer

• "Return" renames the file
• click on another file in the panel renames the file
• "ESC" cancels renaming

Then "click on another file" could either rename the file like explorer does or ask the user to rename it. We would not need it as "cancel-action" anymore. (IMO the current way is a little bit strange.)

[ghisler(Author)]

Sorry, interpreting a click outside is so illogical that I will not add it. Try clicking outside a dialog box, or outside a menu, it's NEVER interpreted as OK!

[MVV]

I think additional flag may be added to confirm rename operation if name was changed and user has clicked outside rename window.

[Samuel]

Try clicking outside a dialog box, or outside a menu, it's NEVER interpreted as OK!

It is: in Explorer > rename
IIRC also CDex accepts this method when renaming tracks.

I for myself would prefer that TC would ask me in this case. (of course only if I changed the name)
It happened several times to me that I had to retype the name. (it is data loss, even when it is only some bytes)

Or TC could remember the typed in name. If I try to rename this file again, it could show the last name I tried to give to the file. (and aborted)

Or just an ini option like MVV suggested.

[Dalai]

It is: in Explorer > rename

In Explorer you can undo the rename, TC doesn't have such a feature. So, clicking outside the input field should only rename a file if you can undo that. Otherwise it's data loss.

Regards Dalai

[ts4242]

It is documented in beta 11 but with wrong description

InplaceOkButton=1 Show button to confirm inplace rename:
1: to the left should be right
2: to the right should be left
0 do not show

[Sir_SiLvA]

Its stated correct in the german helpfile

[karlchen]

Confirmations:

1. The parameter has been added to section 4.b of the T.C. helpfile. Great. Thanks.
2. The German help text is correct as stated by Sir_SiLvA:

   InplaceOkButton=1 Umbenennen: Button zum Bestätigen 1=rechts vom Namen, 2=links, 0=aus

3. The English text explains the values 1 and 2 the wrong way round as illustrated by ts4242:

   InplaceOkButton=1 Show button to confirm inplace rename:
   1: to the left
   2: to the right
   0 do not show

4. We have got 3 choices now where in the beginning we had none: right, left, off.

I'm confident the small helpfile error will be corrected in the next beta.

Karl

[petermad]

As I have stated in another thread:

IMHO the help file should be kept as it is, and TC's behaviour should be changed accordingly - e.g. InplaceOkButton=1 should be default and should mean to the left.

[Sir_SiLvA]

I beg to differ - default = right side this is how one would expect it.

[petermad]

Fixed in TC 8.0b12 - Helpfile and actual behaviour is now in sync.

[karlchen]

Fixed in TC 8.0b12. Helpfile and actual behaviour is now in sync.

Correct. Reviewed the English and the German helpfile. Both explain InplaceOkButton correctly.

Karl