Can't access files with extended chars in filename, v 5.51

[blind12]

I'm using a fairly old v5.51 on WinXP currently and I have some files downloaded under previous OS, Win98, with French and Japanese characters in the filenames. I could access them under Win98 but not under WinXP with the same Commander version. Win Explorer can access them just fine, but Commander can't. Is it likely that 6.03 fixes this issue ?

[ghisler(Author)]

These are Unicode file names. Total Commander 6.03 can copy, rename, delete and launch them, but some operations like packing cannot be done.

[Clo]

2blind12
 Hello !
• I confirm : there is a problem somewhere!
• I tested three files having French characters:

• Œ-Maj.bmp
  œ21.bmp
  ä-min.bmp

* They are displayed just right in TC 6.03a under Win98SE in my usual PC, which is the server of my home-LAN. I can open all files.
* But they look like:

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_-Maj.bmp
_.bmp
ä-min.bmp

under XP-Pro with TC 6.03a through the network (LAN) in another PC.
* The same in an old 5.11 (I lost the 5.51...), still through the network under Win 98 SE, in another PC too.
* You're right : the files can't be open, I get the message "File n… not found!"
* Isn't a font problem, since I use fonts having all characters in all PCs.
• I guess that the network doesn't support these characters in file-names, or something like this…
* In anyway, a workaround might be found!
  Kind regards,
Claude
Clo

[Clo]

2ghisler(Author)
 Good evening,
• Sorry, but the file-names I just tested are NOT Unicode !
• Moreover, we don't test packing, the topic is only about opening the files with the associated programs !

 Best regards,
Claude
Clo

[blind12]

These are Unicode file names. Total Commander 6.03 can copy, rename, delete and launch them, but some operations like packing cannot be done.

I doubt it, the files work just fine under the same Commander v5.51 under Win98SE. I think I also packed some of them.

The filenames are:
Éléments boītes - Anglais.doc
End of Evangelion 1ŗĪ.avi

(Looks like Internet Explorer turned the extended characters into Unicode when I tried posting this. Opera showed question marks when I tried to preview posting).

[ghisler(Author)]

Windows 9x doesn't support Unicode at all - just a single codepage (e.g. English, Russian, Chinese etc). So you probably have a different default codepage set on Windows 98SE and Windows XP. On XP, the codepage is set in Control Panel - regional settings, I think it's via some "advanced" button or so for non-Unicode programs.

[blind12]

Windows 9x doesn't support Unicode at all - just a single codepage (e.g. English, Russian, Chinese etc). So you probably have a different default codepage set on Windows 98SE and Windows XP. On XP, the codepage is set in Control Panel - regional settings, I think it's via some "advanced" button or so for non-Unicode programs.

All settings in Win98SE were set for Estonia/Baltic. Non-Unicode programs in WinXP are set to English. Does this prevent Commander from accessing files with extended characters in filename under WinXP ? And why only under WinXP ? Some characters, like Japanese ones, did not display correctly (i.e. in Japanese) under Win98, but I had no trouble accessing the files.

[SanskritFritz]

WinXP itself makes conversions according to language code pages. I also had the problem when i wrote a CD with filenames containing special hungarian chars, having hungarian settings in XP, and could not read them on english XP installations. As soon as i switched to hungarian, i could read the files. Another solution is to copy and rename the files on the command line, that has different code page (OEM) and seems not to convert so badly.

[Clo]

2blind12
  Hello !
• Like I explained already above, there is a problem at home through the network only, either under Win98SE (as client) or under XP-Pro (as client too). That works fine on the spot with all PCs.
• I'm pretty sure that isn't an Unicode issue.
* I tested with file-names as plain text *.TXT
* I sent that files and screen-shots to the Author via an e-mail. I don't understand why he persists in thinking it's an Unicode problem.
• Did you connect your PCs together ?
  KR
Claude
Clo

[blind12]

2blind12
  Hello !
? Like I explained already above, there is a problem at home through the network only, either under Win98SE (as client) or under XP-Pro (as client too). That works fine on the spot with all PCs.
...
? Did you connect your PCs together ?

My problem is on a single dualboot system. No network at all, just a single computer.

[blind12]

WinXP itself makes conversions according to language code pages. I also had the problem when i wrote a CD with filenames containing special hungarian chars, having hungarian settings in XP, and could not read them on english XP installations. As soon as i switched to hungarian, i could read the files. Another solution is to copy and rename the files on the command line, that has different code page (OEM) and seems not to convert so badly.

The funny thing is that WinXP's Explorer accesses the files just fine.

[SanskritFritz]

The funny thing is that WinXP's Explorer accesses the files just fine.

Hmm, you are right, that is strange. Not that Explorer can read the files, but that TC cannot... in my case no program was able to read the file, only the command line.

[blind12]

Hmm, you are right, that is strange. Not that Explorer can read the files, but that TC cannot... in my case no program was able to read the file, only the command line.

Hmm. you gave me an idea to turn off long filenames in Total Commander - and with short filenames I can access such files without a problem. Not suprising, of course.

Oh well, since no-one else can confirm the exact symptoms I have, maybe I should try the latest version and see how the long names fare there.

[ghisler(Author)]

Why don't you try to set the language for non-Unicode programs to Estonian?

[blind12]

Why don't you try to set the language for non-Unicode programs to Estonian?

When I do this, I can access those files with Commander, but everything else on my system gets messed up. Extended characters get screwed up when copy-pasting in some programs etc.