dBPoweramp shell extension shows up under X64 context menu instead of "X86" context menu of 32-bit TC

[Wojtek]

Hello,

I'm not sure about the topic title, I hope it fits...

I have installed the dBPoweramp Music Converter and the problem I am facing is that the pop-up window goes off the screen.
When triggered by (Windows) Explorer everything is just fine.

So I hope that moving the shell extension from X64 to X86 context menu will solve the problem.

In the registry the items are located in "win32" keys, so they also should appear under win32 in TC, but they don't.

Any ideas?

[NotNull]

the problem I am facing is that the pop-up window goes off the screen

Without knowing dbPoweramp, a general solution to this:

• Click on the dBPoweramp Music Converter icon in the taskbar
• Press ALT+SPACE to activate the application's window menu
• Press M (Move)
• Press the cursor keys to move the window back "in the picture"
• Exit the application with SHIFT+ALT+F4
  For most applications that will save the window position, so it will open on that same position the next time
• Done (?)

If you have a localized Windows (German?), the "M" might be different.
Try it with - for example - Notepad. The underlined letter is the one you are looking for to replace the M.

[Wojtek]

• Click on the dBPoweramp Music Converter icon in the taskbar
• Press ALT+SPACE to activate the application's window menu
• Press M (Move)
• Press the cursor keys to move the window back "in the picture"
• Exit the application with SHIFT+ALT+F4
  For most applications that will save the window position, so it will open on that same position the next time
• Done (?)

Done. Didn't work.

Any other ideas?

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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TypeLib\{627B1B3E-F003-4B78-861D-B599317A9E9A}\1.0\0\win32]
@="C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Illustrate\\dBpoweramp\\dBShell.dll"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\TypeLib\{627B1B3E-F003-4B78-861D-B599317A9E9A}\1.0\0\win32]
@="C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Illustrate\\dBpoweramp\\dBShell.dll"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\TypeLib\{627B1B3E-F003-4B78-861D-B599317A9E9A}\1.0\0\win32]
@="C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Illustrate\\dBpoweramp\\dBShell.dll"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Wow6432Node\TypeLib\{627B1B3E-F003-4B78-861D-B599317A9E9A}\1.0\0\win32]
@="C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Illustrate\\dBpoweramp\\dBShell.dll"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\TypeLib\{627B1B3E-F003-4B78-861D-B599317A9E9A}\1.0\0\win32]
@="C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Illustrate\\dBpoweramp\\dBShell.dll"

[NotNull]

Done. Didn't work.
Any other ideas?

No, not yet. I am still processing the massive amount of details you provided in your feedback ...

[Wojtek]

[sarcasm]

No, not yet. I am still processing the massive amount of details you provided in your feedback ...

[/sarcasm]

yeah... sorry about that...

Here we go:

OS: Win7 N SP1 64-bit
TC: 9.22a 32-bit + 64-bit (I mostly use TC 32-bit)
dBPoweramp R16.6

TC Plugins:

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TC Plugins Manager 2.2.8 report, generated 12/28/2019 .
Total Commander: 9.22a. Path: "C:\Program Files\Total Commander\Totalcmd.exe". Ini-file: "C:\Users\John\AppData\Roaming\GHISLER\wincmd.ini".
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Plugins folder: "%COMMANDER_PATH%\plugins".

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[Dalai]

Didn't work.

What exactly didn't work? Were you able to move the window like NotNull described? Did you try the four different directions to move to? Or is just the window position not saved (which could be completely normal for this particular window/application).
How exactly do you know that the window is off-screen? Is it shown in the Windows Task bar?

Regards
Dalai

[Wojtek]

What exactly didn't work? Were you able to move the window like NotNull described? Did you try the four different directions to move to? Or is just the window position not saved (which could be completely normal for this particular window/application).
How exactly do you know that the window is off-screen? Is it shown in the Windows Task bar?

I tried to move the window with keyboard, but next time I start the converter the window position is again off the screen.

Here is a screen capture that shows what is happening. Should be better to understand now.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dvlC8fTqrQ7orzm53P6GfeL7PyYbV6mR

and here is a screen capture of dBPoweramp triggered by Windows Explorer:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1u7QiI15zseO9h-LCBSEB3fLh4gjnt-Pu

For testing I have downloaded TC 9.50 beta 32+64 and dBP R17 beta

[petermad]

2Vittorio
Could you try with a non-maximized TC window and a maximized Explorer window - any change?

Also - could you try with a non-maximized Explorer window placed in the upper left corner of the screen - does the dBP R17 beta open centered to Explorer or centered to the screen in that case?

[Dalai]

2Vittorio
Did you actually try in TC 64-bit? In your video you're clearly using TC 32-bit, and from your response I assume you did use the combined installer which, by default, creates shortcuts to TC 32-bit (only?).

My guess is that this application tries to find the windows that it has been launched from. Maybe to place itself in the center of it. TC 32-bit's context menu launches 64-bit programs via tcmdx64.exe which probably even doesn't have a window (because it doesn't need to). So, nothing to center it to...

Regards
Dalai

[Wojtek]

Update and some tests:

• TC 64-bit maximized @ 1024x768 => dBPoweramp shows up at the center of the screen = works!
• TC 32-bit resized => dbPoweramp goes off-screen
• Explorer maximized => dBPoweramp shows up at the center of the screen = works!
• Explorer resized and moved to the upper left corner => dBPoweramp shows up at the center of the Explorer window
• Explorer resized and moved off-screen => dBPoweramp goes off-screen too

Conclusion:

dBPoweramp centers relative to the window from which it was triggered

The problem is that I have lots of TC plugins which work only in TC 32-bit, that is why I still use TC 32-bit most of the time.

Possible solutions:

create a custom internal command in TC or a button in the button bar.
I will try so and post the update...

[HolgerK]

2Vittorio

I would contact the developer of dBpoweramp
(
https://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?44192-dBpoweramp-R17-Windows-Beta
https://forum.dbpoweramp.com/forumdisplay.php?21-Test-Upcoming-Releases
)

TC uses a hidden helper process (X64:TOTALCMD64.EXE -> TCMDX32.EXE, X86:TOTALCMD.EXE -> TCMDX64.EXE) to call shell extensions with different bitness.
The dBpoweramp shell extensions seems to use the window handle of the calling process (the hidden helper window) to locate the parents window position and center itself over this window.

The dBpoweramp developer should consider to check this dialog positions against a (multi) monitor screen area and/or use the mouse position instead of the parents window position.
further readings: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/gdi/positioning-objects-on-multiple-display-monitors

ClipOrCenterRectToMonitor: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/gdi/positioning-objects-on-a-multiple-display-setup

Regards
Holger

[NotNull]

the installer of dBPoweramp Music Converter has an option to install the 32-bit version.
Maybe that will install the 32-bit shell extensions too? (although I doubt it ..)

To install the 32-bit version:

• Press down the RIGHT Shift key and double-click the installer executable.
• Release the right shift key (just mentioning this for health reasons; don't want you glued to your keyboard for a couple of weeks )

[Wojtek]

I have just updated dBPoweramp to the latest stable version 17.1, but the off-screen issue still persists.

The dBPoweramp developers say, that they can't do anything about it.

Well, my only hope now is, that TC will fix it somehow.

Any fix in progress?

[HolgerK]

The dBPoweramp developers say, that they can't do anything about it.

Of course they can:

The dBpoweramp shell extensions seems to use the window handle of the calling process (the hidden helper window) to locate the parents window position and center itself over this window.

The dBpoweramp developer should consider to check this dialog positions against a (multi) monitor screen area and/or use the mouse position instead of the parents window position.
further readings: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/gdi/positioning-objects-on-multiple-display-monitors

Clip OrCenter RectToMonitor: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/gdi/positioning-objects-on-a-multiple-display-setup

Regards
Holger