Back button not working as expected (was about thinning + HistoryCut)
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Back button not working as expected (was about thinning + HistoryCut)
The back button does not always traverse back in history correctly, especially if I have been looking in several ZIP files.
Re: Back button not working as expected
That's probably caused by the new way the history is stored. Try disabling history thinning, and also add HistoryCut=1 to [Configuration] section in your wincmd.ini. This will return the behavior to the pre-9.50 one.
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Re: Back button not working as expected
Mike_T wrote: 2020-02-07, 18:12 UTC The back button does not always traverse back in history correctly, especially if I have been looking in several ZIP files.
Hi and welcome.
Look up TC9.50 new feature "history thinning" in history.txt or in the forum.
and
ghisler(Author) wrote: 2019-11-01, 15:42 UTC Please try this new option (TC9.50) in wincmd.ini section [Configuration]
HistoryCut=1
It should handle the history similar to TC 9.22.
HTH?
Re: Back button not working as expected
Thank you Flint and Stefan2, that worked fine.
/Mikael
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Re: Back button not working as expected
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Re: Back button not working as expected
Christian,
Another one.
Roman
Another one.
Roman
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Re: Back button not working as expected (was about thinning + HistoryCut)
This isn't a bug. It's a unification of behaviour (which btw has nothing to do with history thinning).
In TC 9.22a, when you went back in the history via button bar "<-" or Alt+Cursor left, and then switched to a diferent directory, the entire history behind that point was lost. That's how it also works in a Web browser. But Total Commander isn't a Web browser, it's a file manager. Losing the previously visited directories is not nice.
Also in TC 9.22a, if you picked a directory from the dropdown history (triangle button or Alt+Cursor down) put that directory at the end of the history. So when you then went to a different directory, the history wasn't lost.
TC 9.50 tries to unify this: when you go to a previous directory via button bar "<-" or Alt+Cursor left, and then go somewhere else, that new directory is appended to the history so the history beyond that location isn't lost any more. This is more similar to what happens when you use the dropdown history in TC 9.22a or 9.50.
In TC 9.22a, when you went back in the history via button bar "<-" or Alt+Cursor left, and then switched to a diferent directory, the entire history behind that point was lost. That's how it also works in a Web browser. But Total Commander isn't a Web browser, it's a file manager. Losing the previously visited directories is not nice.
Also in TC 9.22a, if you picked a directory from the dropdown history (triangle button or Alt+Cursor down) put that directory at the end of the history. So when you then went to a different directory, the history wasn't lost.
TC 9.50 tries to unify this: when you go to a previous directory via button bar "<-" or Alt+Cursor left, and then go somewhere else, that new directory is appended to the history so the history beyond that location isn't lost any more. This is more similar to what happens when you use the dropdown history in TC 9.22a or 9.50.
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Re: Back button not working as expected (was about thinning + HistoryCut)
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It's not about bugs. It's a story about misunderstandings with history and its thinning turned on by default, already reported in many topics. If you don't want to turn thinning off by default, you should at least describe the feature and navigation in directory history in Help.
Edited to be more clear.
It's not about bugs. It's a story about misunderstandings with history and its thinning turned on by default, already reported in many topics. If you don't want to turn thinning off by default, you should at least describe the feature and navigation in directory history in Help.
Edited to be more clear.
Last edited by Usher on 2020-02-09, 18:43 UTC, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Back button not working as expected (was about thinning + HistoryCut)
2Usher
As Christian explained, it's not history thinning. In my post I mentioned it, only because from the first message it wasn't clear enough, which of the two new history features Mike_T disliked.
But I agree that the default new way of storing entries should be explained in the help. There are many questions about it on the Russian forums too.
As Christian explained, it's not history thinning. In my post I mentioned it, only because from the first message it wasn't clear enough, which of the two new history features Mike_T disliked.
But I agree that the default new way of storing entries should be explained in the help. There are many questions about it on the Russian forums too.
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Re: Back button not working as expected (was about thinning + HistoryCut)
2Flint
I'm talking about misunderstandings in which history features (including thinning) are involved. Edited previous comment to show context more clear.
I'm talking about misunderstandings in which history features (including thinning) are involved. Edited previous comment to show context more clear.
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Re: Back button not working as expected (was about thinning + HistoryCut)
2Usher
OK, I see.
OK, I see.
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Re: Back button not working as expected (was about thinning + HistoryCut)
I don't know if it has anything to do with the messages above, but in the new version the behaviour of browsing through directories is changed very annoying. Eg a directory tree:
Dir A
>>Subdir Aa
Dir B
>> Subdir Bb
Dir C
>> Subdir Cc
Example of a flow in the previous version:
- Root
- To: subdir Aa
- Back button on my mouse: back to root
- To: subdir Bb
- Back button on my mouse: back to root
- To: subdir Cc
- Back button on my mouse: back to root
That's the way Microsoft File Explorer works too.
In 9:50:
- Root
- To: subdir Aa
- Back button on my mouse: back to root
- To: subdir Bb
- Back button on my mouse: back to Aa
- Back button on my mouse: back to root
- To: subdir Cc
- Back button on my mouse: back to Bb
- Back button on my mouse: back to Aa
- Back button on my mouse: back to root
I hope this is a bug...
Dir A
>>Subdir Aa
Dir B
>> Subdir Bb
Dir C
>> Subdir Cc
Example of a flow in the previous version:
- Root
- To: subdir Aa
- Back button on my mouse: back to root
- To: subdir Bb
- Back button on my mouse: back to root
- To: subdir Cc
- Back button on my mouse: back to root
That's the way Microsoft File Explorer works too.
In 9:50:
- Root
- To: subdir Aa
- Back button on my mouse: back to root
- To: subdir Bb
- Back button on my mouse: back to Aa
- Back button on my mouse: back to root
- To: subdir Cc
- Back button on my mouse: back to Bb
- Back button on my mouse: back to Aa
- Back button on my mouse: back to root
I hope this is a bug...
Re: Back button not working as expected (was about thinning + HistoryCut)
Hi and welcome Phanatique.
I don't know anything about this, but have you tried this:
Or maybe you see the bug of "HistoryLenStored=" spotted in TC9.50?
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=57579
I don't know anything about this, but have you tried this:
ghisler(Author) wrote: 2019-11-01, 15:42 UTC Please try this new option (TC9.50) in wincmd.ini section [Configuration]
HistoryCut=1
It should handle the history similar to TC 9.22.
Or maybe you see the bug of "HistoryLenStored=" spotted in TC9.50?
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=57579
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Re: Back button not working as expected (was about thinning + HistoryCut)
HistoryCut=1 works fine. Thank you.