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tc very slow to show a volume folder and files

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Hi

i have a volume with 80 folder and lots of file
when i click un it , Tc freeze for 3 o 4 seconds , with a dialog reading
i thought the hd was bad ,checked the smart , bought a new brand new and copied all the files , same result , another drive with the same folder and file same result


I use show ->full
i have defraged very well and with different program this partition , checked for errors nothing is ok
the point there a lot of files
this happen only 1 time , after tc read this volume and take some second , if close tc and i run it again it's fast
a reboot , give the same problem
is there a solution ?
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How many files are in the directory? I have one folder with 130'000 subdirectories, it takes about 8 seconds to load. In general, it should be avoided to have that many entries in a single directory.
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Re: tc very slow to show a volume folder and files

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ghisler(Author) wrote: 2021-05-28, 07:43 UTC How many files are in the directory? I have one folder with 130'000 subdirectories, it takes about 8 seconds to load. In general, it should be avoided to have that many entries in a single directory.
Hi
i have now 98 folder with lots of subfolders , for example a folder has 260 subfolder
but in the partitions i have lots of files 10261 files , program ,pdf , images and so on

are the folder to slow down tc or the files?

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Only if they are all shown together. How many files and subfolders are in the folder which is slow?
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Re: tc very slow to show a volume folder and files

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ghisler(Author) wrote: 2021-05-28, 10:23 UTC Only if they are all shown together. How many files and subfolders are in the folder which is slow?
hi
there are 10261 files 720 subfolder
but TC using an engine similar to everything could speed up?
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Try with disabled icons in TC's panels (Configuration > Options > Icons > No icons and see if that changes anything. Also temporarily disable any anti-virus software (including Windows Defender). If the extraction of icons are slowing things down, even Everything wouldn't change a thing.

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giulia wrote: 2021-05-28, 14:11 UTC ... but TC using an engine similar to everything could speed up?
Everything 1.5 supports multi threading.
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Dalai wrote: 2021-05-28, 15:29 UTC Try with disabled icons in TC's panels (Configuration > Options > Icons > No icons and see if that changes anything. Also temporarily disable any anti-virus software (including Windows Defender). If the extraction of icons are slowing things down, even Everything wouldn't change a thing.

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Hi
disabled icons and Eset antivurs ,windows defender is off , and no , it doesn't speed up reading this partition

I have tried some free file manager , they don't give me such issues
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Re: tc very slow to show a volume folder and files

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giulia wrote: 2021-05-28, 15:53 UTC I have tried some free file manager , they don't give me such issues
Under the same conditions as mentioned here?
giulia wrote: 2021-05-28, 06:10 UTCthis happen only 1 time , after tc read this volume and take some second , if close tc and i run it again it's fast
a reboot , give the same problem
Sounds like Windows is caching information from the file-system (physical access to the hd during first call), and the second call is faster because Windows delivers information directly from it's file-system cache.
Another reason could be that your virus-scanner scans the folder at first access time.
I don't think that TC is the culprit here (why should TC operate faster under same conditions after you restart TC?).

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Re: tc very slow to show a volume folder and files

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As always when somebody has a problem others cannot reproduce, I have to ask, Does your TC behave the same if you start it with a fresh ini file?
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Re: tc very slow to show a volume folder and files

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petermad wrote: 2021-05-28, 21:00 UTC 2giulia
As always when somebody has a problem others cannot reproduce, I have to ask, Does your TC behave the same if you start it with a fresh ini file?
Hi petermad
i have tried to delete the ini file (i left the ini file empty) ,and the same problem
HolgerK wrote: 2021-05-28, 18:23 UTC
giulia wrote: 2021-05-28, 15:53 UTC
Sounds like Windows is caching information from the file-system (physical access to the hd during first call), and the second call is faster because Windows delivers information directly from it's file-system cache.
Another reason could be that your virus-scanner scans the folder at first access time.
I don't think that TC is the culprit here (why should TC operate faster under same conditions after you restart TC?).

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Hi Holger , is there a way to stop windows to
Sounds like Windows is caching information from the file-system
?
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Re: tc very slow to show a volume folder and files

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giulia wrote: 2021-05-29, 06:30 UTCHi Holger , is there a way to stop windows to
Sounds like Windows is caching information from the file-system
?
I'm sure that's not what you want.
Files System Caching is not what slows down the first access, but speeds up any further access.

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Re: tc very slow to show a volume folder and files

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2giulia

Perhaps you will even reveal with which TC version and Windows version the problem occurs with you? :wink:
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That could look like the one given in my signature.


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Re: tc very slow to show a volume folder and files

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I can't imagine having only 10,000 files in one directory would cause a slowdown of several seconds, even if it's only on the first call. Listing the %SystemRoot%\system32 (or %SystemRoot%\SysNative) directory with almost 3,000 files is instantaneous on my system. Yes, I'm aware that that's not even a third of the file count on your system, but even opening %SystemRoot%\WinSxS with 13,000 sub-directories takes only about half a second.

I suggest to try the same thing in Windows Safe Mode. If it's fast there, it's definitely some background program/service or some scanner or sandbox causing the slowdown in regular Windows mode.

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Re: tc very slow to show a volume folder and files

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Dalai wrote: 2021-05-29, 11:28 UTC pening %SystemRoot%\WinSxS with 13,000 sub-directories takes only about half a second.
Funny you'd mention the winsxs folder, I tested it and it took 8 seconds on my machine to get it loaded! But my computer is 12 years old, my hard drive is pretty full, I'm running 32 bit Windows Vista and the memory tops at 4GB, only 3GB of which are accessible. The reason the thread subject got me interested is that some folders sometimes take a long time to load and I get a dialog box "reading directory" or something like that for a few seconds - if I click cancel the files are then displayed instantly. Shutting TC down and reopening it on the same directory doesn't cause the problem again, which to me hints at a Windows or cache issue. And no, I don't have any antivirus running, but I do have malwarebytes installed.

Sorry if I seem to be hijacking the thread, but it seems it could be related.
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