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Nostalgia: Total Commander looking like XTree Gold

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So, yesterday I was customizing the looks of TC and I could not forget the looks of the first file manager I have ever used, XTree Gold.
So I had it installed in a virtual machine, captured a screenshot and used an image tool to get the exact RGB colors of the UI.

Then I looked for a font that would mimic the old DOS font the closest possible (they were not really fonts, they were embedded in the ROM).
After some tweaks, I came up with this:

[img]https://i.ibb.co/B2Yt5rZ/total-commander-xtgold.png[/img]

Some considerations:

1- I did it for fun and I reverted it back. I kept the font and the ini file, though. :-)
2- Unfortunately, I don't know how to make it ALL blue. Does anyone know?
3- Selecting files in XTGold would add small diamond icons next to the file name. This is not how it is done in TC. So I went online looking for some XTG images and found that light blue being used as a cursor (instead of the grey background/black font colors of XTG 3). So I decided to use it to highlight selected files. I had to take some liberty with it.

I hope you enjoy it. :-)
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Re: Nostalgia: Total Commander looking like XTree Gold

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2- Unfortunately, I don't know how to make it ALL blue. Does anyone know?
With this setting: https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/bluetc.png
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Re: Nostalgia: Total Commander looking like XTree Gold

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petermad wrote: 2021-05-21, 15:10 UTC
2- Unfortunately, I don't know how to make it ALL blue. Does anyone know?
With this setting: https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/bluetc.png
Oh, wow! I'll totally do this again! hahaha
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Re: Nostalgia: Total Commander looking like XTree Gold

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petermad wrote: 2021-05-21, 15:10 UTC
2- Unfortunately, I don't know how to make it ALL blue. Does anyone know?
With this setting: https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/bluetc.png
[img]https://i.ibb.co/B2Yt5rZ/total-commander-xtgold.png[/img]
Alright! This looks better! Thank you, petermad!

Unfortunately, I cannot change:
- Driver buttons background.
- Scroll bar background
- Menu fonts
- Tabs font color and background
- Panel title (Name Ext Size etc)
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Re: Nostalgia: Total Commander looking like XTree Gold

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Unfortunately, I cannot change:
- Driver buttons background.
- Scroll bar background
- Menu fonts
- Tabs font color and background
- Panel title (Name Ext Size etc)
- Driver buttons background.
- Tabs font color and background
- Panel title (Name Ext Size etc)

These three are all set with Color -> "Others:" -> "Dark Mode:" -> "Highlight"
See https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/morebluetc.png


- Scroll bar background
- Menu fonts
These two has to be set by tweaking Windows Registry ( [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Colors] )
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Re: Nostalgia: Total Commander looking like XTree Gold

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petermad wrote: 2021-05-21, 21:06 UTC
Unfortunately, I cannot change:
- Driver buttons background.
- Scroll bar background
- Menu fonts
- Tabs font color and background
- Panel title (Name Ext Size etc)
- Driver buttons background.
- Tabs font color and background
- Panel title (Name Ext Size etc)

These three are all set with Color -> "Others:" -> "Dark Mode:" -> "Highlight"
See https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/morebluetc.png


- Scroll bar background
- Menu fonts
These two has to be set by tweaking Windows Registry ( [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Colors] )
Do you know the keys you changed?
Do you know how to change the font for the menus (not just the color)?
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Re: Nostalgia: Total Commander looking like XTree Gold

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Do you know the keys you changed?
I didn't change any for those screenshots - The menu takes the color of the Dak Mode: Background
The Scrollbar in my screenshot is blue, but that is in Windows 7, in my Windows 10 it is black - and the scrollbar button is gray in both OS's

You could try to change:

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[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Colors]
Scrollbar
to see if that helps in Windows 10 - but it might not work, Windows 10 only uses a few of these settings.

You can change the Menu font in:

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[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\WindowMetrics]
MenuFont
but the key is en hexadecimal, so it is not so easy to edit. But changing that key in Windows 10 does work (until the next major Windows 10 upgrade, then you have to do it again)

Also consider that changes in the Windows Registry, will affect all Windows programs, not just TC.

Yoo have to log out and in to Windows to see the effect of changes made to the Registry.

You can also use Winaero Tweaker to change the system menu font: https://winaero.com/downloads/winaerotweaker.zip


This is my best shot at making TC 10.00 look like my god old Norton Commander 4.0: https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/nc4tc10.png

EDIT:
For those who could be interested - here are the settings used for the Norton Commander 4.0 look:
wincmd.ini:

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[Configuration]
UseNewDefFont=1
SetEncoding=äö.do.not.remove
firstmnu=2298
FirstTimeIconLib=0
FirstTime=0
SeparateTree=0
PanelsVertical=0
StartupScreen=0
DarkMode=2
Aligned extension=1
ShowHiddenSystem=1
UseLongNames=1
Small83Names=0
OldStyleTree=0
DirBrackets=0
ShowParentDirInRoot=0
SortDirsByName=0
SortUpper=0
IconOverlays=1
IconsSpecialFolders=3
Showicons=2
ShowEXEandLNKicons=2
IconsInMenus=16
IconsOnNet=1
OldListIcons=1
OldDriveIcons=2
ResolutionSpecific=0
AutoSizeDialogs=1

[ColorsDark]
TreeLineColor=-1
TreeTriangles=0
DarkForeground=16777045
DarkBackground=11141120
InverseCursor=1
ThemedCursor=0
InverseSelection=0
BackColor=-1
BackColor2=-1
ForeColor=-1
MarkColor=-1
CursorColor=11184640
CursorText=0
DarkHighlight=8388608

[Tabstops]
0=166
1=174
3=241
4=115
6=550
5=100
AdjustWidth=1

[Layout]
ButtonBarVertical=1
DriveBar1=1
DriveBar2=1
DriveBarFlat=1
InterfaceFlat=0
DriveCombo=1
DirectoryTabs=1
XPthemeBg=0
CurDir=1
TabHeader=1
StatusBar=1
CmdLine=1
KeyButtons=1
HistoryHotlistButtons=1
BreadCrumbBar=1

[Buttonbar]
Buttonheight=29
Buttonheight96=29
FlatIcons=1
SmallIcons=1
SmallIconSize=16
SmallIconSize96=16
DefaultDpi=96
XPstyle=1

[AllResolutions]
FontSize=10
FontName=Courier New
FontSizeWindow=10
FontNameWindow=Courier New
FontWeight=700
FontWeightWindow=700
FontNameDialog=Courier New
maximized=0
x=410
y=125
dx=1100
dy=800
Divider=500
DividerQuickView=500
DividerComments=500
Tabstops=166,174,241,115,550,100
monitor(0,0,1920,1080;96)=410,125,1100,800
FontCharset=1
FontCharsetWindow=1
FontCharsetDialog=1

[left]
path=c:\
ViewMode=-1
activepanelcolor=-1
activepanelcolor2=-1
activepanelcolordark=-1
activepanelcolordark2=-1
ShowAllDetails=1
SpecialView=0
show=1
sortorder=4
negative Sortorder=1

[right]
path=c:\
ViewMode=-1
activepanelcolor=-1
activepanelcolor2=-1
activepanelcolordark=-1
activepanelcolordark2=-1
ShowAllDetails=1
SpecialView=0
show=1
sortorder=4
negative Sortorder=1
Registry:

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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\WindowMetrics]
"MenuFont"=hex:f3,ff,ff,ff,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,bc,02,00,00,00,\
  00,00,00,00,00,00,00,43,00,6f,00,75,00,72,00,69,00,65,00,72,00,20,00,4e,00,\
  65,00,77,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
  00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"MenuHeight"="-315"
"MenuWidth"="-315"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Colors]
"Hilight"="0 170 170"
"HilightText"="0 0 0"

EDIT 2:
I found this Menu for TC that I made years ago to mimic the menu of Norton Commander 4.0:
Wcmd_nc4_eng.mnu

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POPUP "&Left"
  MENUITEM "&Brief\tCtrl-F1", 101
  MENUITEM "&Full\tCtrl-F2", 102
  MENUITEM "Comments\tShift-Ctrl-F2", 100
  MENUITEM "T&humbnail view\tShift+Ctrl+F1", 69
  MENUITEM "Custom columns\tShift+F1", 70
  MENUITEM "&Info\tCtrl-L", 503
  MENUITEM "&Tree\tCtrl-F8", 103
  MENUITEM "Quick &view\tCtrl-Q", 104
  MENUITEM "Branch vie&w\tCtrl+B", 2034
  MENUITEM "Verti&cal alignment", 305
  MENUITEM "N&ew folder tab\tCtrl-T", 3001
  MENUITEM "Lin&k", 2300
  MENUITEM SEPARATOR
  MENUITEM "&Name\tCtrl-F3", 121
  MENUITEM "E&xtension\tCtrl-F4", 122
  MENUITEM "Ti&me\tCtrl-F5", 124
  MENUITEM "&Size\tCtrl-F6", 123
  MENUITEM "&Unsorted\tCtrl-F7", 125
  MENUITEM "Reversed &order", 130
  MENUITEM SEPARATOR
  MENUITEM "&Re-read\tCtrl-R", 540
  MENUITEM "Fi&lter", 114
  MENUITEM "*.*", 113
  MENUITEM "&All Files", 112
  MENUITEM "&Programs", 111
  MENUITEM "&Drive\tAlt-F1", 131
END_POPUP

POPUP "&Files"
  POPUP "&Help"
    MENUITEM "&Index\tF1", 610
    MENUITEM "&Keyboard", 620
    MENUITEM "&Registration Info", 630
    MENUITEM "&Visit Wincmd's Web Site", 640
    MENUITEM SEPARATOR
    MENUITEM "&About Windows Commander", 690
  END_POPUP

  STARTMENU
  MENUITEM "&View\tF3", 903
  MENUITEM "&Edit\tF4", 904
  MENUITEM "&Copy\tF5", 905
  MENUITEM "&Rename or move\tF6", 906
  MENUITEM "&Make directory\tF7", 907
  MENUITEM "&Delete\tF8", 908
  MENUITEM SEPARATOR
  MENUITEM "File &attributes", 502
  MENUITEM "Version information\tAlt-Enter", 510
  MENUITEM "Edit comment\tCtrl-Z", 2700
  MENUITEM SEPARATOR
  MENUITEM "Select &group\tGray  +", 521
  MENUITEM "Deselec&t group\tGray  -", 522
  MENUITEM "&Invert Selection\tGray  *", 525
  MENUITEM "Re&store selection\tGray  /", 529
  MENUITEM SEPARATOR
  POPUP "&Pack"
    MENUITEM "&Pack files...\tAlt-F5", 508
    MENUITEM "&Unpack files...\tAlt-F9", 509
    MENUITEM "&Test archive(s)\tShift-Alt-F9", 518
    MENUITEM "&Open self extracting archive\tCtrl-PgDn", 2003
  END_POPUP
  POPUP "Sp&lit"
    MENUITEM "&Split file...", 560
    MENUITEM "&Combine files...", 561
  END_POPUP
  POPUP "Enc&ode"
    MENUITEM "&Encode file (MIME, UUE, XXE)...", 562
    MENUITEM "&Decode file (MIME, UUE, XXE, BinHex)...", 563
  END_POPUP
  POPUP "Checks&um"
    MENUITEM "&Create CRC checksums (SFV format)...", 564
    MENUITEM "&Verify CRC checksums (from SFV files)...", 565
  END_POPUP
  POPUP "Pri&nt"
    MENUITEM "File &list...", 2027
    MENUITEM "File list with &subdirs...", 2028
    MENUITEM "File &contents\tCtrl-F9", 504
  END_POPUP
  POPUP "Cop&y"
    MENUITEM "Copy &filename(s) to clipboard", 2017
    MENUITEM "Copy &pathname + filename(s) to clipboard", 2018
    MENUITEM SEPARATOR
    MENUITEM "Copy &source pathname to clipboard", 2029
    MENUITEM "Copy &target pathname to clipboard", 2030
    MENUITEM SEPARATOR
    MENUITEM "Copy &network filename(s) to clipboard", 2021
  END_POPUP
  MENUITEM SEPARATOR
  MENUITEM "&Quit\tAlt-F4", 24340
END_POPUP

POPUP "&Commands"
  MENUITEM "WC &tree\tAlt-F10", 500
  MENUITEM "&Find file\tAlt-F7", 501
  MENUITEM "System &information", 506
  MENUITEM "Set &volume label", 505
  MENUITEM "Directory si&zes\tShift-Alt-Enter", 2014
  MENUITEM "Directory &hotlist\tCtrl-D", 526
  MENUITEM "Bac&kground transfer manager...", 559
  MENUITEM SEPARATOR
  MENUITEM "&Swap panels\tCtrl-U", 531
  MENUITEM "Target&=source", 532
  MENUITEM "center &Panel divider", 909
  MENUITEM "Vertical &alignment", 305
  MENUITEM SEPARATOR
  MENUITEM "&Compare directories", 533
  MENUITEM "&Mark newer, hide same files", 534
  MENUITEM "S&ynchronize directories", 2020
  MENUITEM SEPARATOR
  MENUITEM "Compare files &by content", 2022
  MENUITEM "Multi-&rename tool\tCtrl-M", 2400
  MENUITEM SEPARATOR
  MENUITEM "M&enu file edit", 700
  MENUITEM "E&xtension file edit", 507
  MENUITEM SEPARATOR
  MENUITEM "Run &DOS", 511
END_POPUP

POPUP "&Options"
  MENUITEM "&Configuration...", 490
  MENUITEM "&Editor...", 496
  MENUITEM "C&onfirmation...", 495
  MENUITEM "Comp&ression...", 491
  MENUITEM SEPARATOR
  MENUITEM "Change &button bar...", 498
  MENUITEM "&Save position", 493
  MENUITEM "Save settin&gs", 580
  MENUITEM "E&dit settings files...", 581
END_POPUP

POPUP "FT&P"
  MENUITEM "&FTP Connect\tCtrl-F", 550
  MENUITEM "FTP Disc&onnect\tShift-Ctrl-F", 552
  MENUITEM "FT&P New Connection\tCtrl-N", 551
  MENUITEM "Abort FTP-&Command", 554
  MENUITEM SEPARATOR
  MENUITEM "&Resume FTP download", 555
  MENUITEM "&Add to FTP download &list", 557
  MENUITEM "FTP &Download from list", 558
  MENUITEM "Bac&kground transfer manager...", 559
  MENUITEM SEPARATOR
  MENUITEM "FTP Sho&w Hidden Files", 553
  MENUITEM SEPARATOR
  MENUITEM "PORT co&nnection to other PC", 2300
END_POPUP

POPUP "&Net"
  MENUITEM "&Network Connections", 512
  MENUITEM "&Disconnect Network Drives", 513
  MENUITEM "&Share Current Directory", 514
  MENUITEM "&Unshare Directory", 515
  MENUITEM "Show &admin shares", 2204
END_POPUP

HELP_BREAK

POPUP "&Right"
  MENUITEM "&Brief\tCtrl-F1", 101
  MENUITEM "&Full\tCtrl-F2", 102
  MENUITEM "Comments\tShift-Ctrl-F2", 100
  MENUITEM "T&humbnail view\tShift+Ctrl+F1", 69
  MENUITEM "Custom columns\tShift+F1", 70
  MENUITEM "&Info\tCtrl-L", 503
  MENUITEM "&Tree\tCtrl-F8", 103
  MENUITEM "Quick &view\tCtrl-Q", 104
  MENUITEM "Branch vie&w\tCtrl+B", 2034
  MENUITEM "Verti&cal alignment", 305
  MENUITEM "N&ew folder tab\tCtrl-T", 3001
  MENUITEM "Lin&k", 2300
  MENUITEM SEPARATOR
  MENUITEM "&Name\tCtrl-F3", 221
  MENUITEM "E&xtension\tCtrl-F4", 222
  MENUITEM "Ti&me\tCtrl-F5", 224
  MENUITEM "&Size\tCtrl-F6", 223
  MENUITEM "&Unsorted\tCtrl-F7", 225
  MENUITEM "Reversed &order", 230
  MENUITEM SEPARATOR
  MENUITEM "&Re-read\tCtrl-R", 540
  MENUITEM "Fi&lter", 214
  MENUITEM "*.*", 213
  MENUITEM "&All Files", 212
  MENUITEM "&Programs", 211
  MENUITEM "&Drive\tAlt-F2", 231
END_POPUP
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Re: Nostalgia: Total Commander looking like XTree Gold

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petermad wrote: 2021-05-21, 22:01 UTC ....This is my best shot at making TC 10.00 look like my god old Norton Commander 4.0: ...
Great. This is the first time I saw it, and I didn't realized what is is good for ;-)
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Re: Nostalgia: Total Commander looking like XTree Gold

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2Peter

I played a little with it the other day - you can download and use this: https://madsenworld.dk/tc-menus/nc4.zip - copy content to your TC program folder

Make these two buttons in your buttonbar:

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TOTALCMD#BAR#DATA
%COMMANDER_EXE% /N /i=%COMMANDER_PATH%\xtc10nc4a.ini

%COMMANDER_EXE%
Open Total Commander with Norton Commander look

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TOTALCMD#BAR#DATA
%COMMANDER_EXE% /N /i=%COMMANDER_PATH%\xtc10nc4b.ini

%COMMANDER_EXE%
Open Total Commander with Norton Commander look (no icons)
To make the button:
1. Mark the text in the box here above (click SELECT ALL).
2. Copy it to the ClipBoard (press Ctrl+C).
3. Right click on TC's buttonbar and choose "Paste".
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