Nostalgia: Total Commander looking like XTree Gold
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Nostalgia: Total Commander looking like XTree Gold
So, yesterday I was customizing the looks of TC and I could not forget the looks of the first file manager I have ever used, XTree Gold.
So I had it installed in a virtual machine, captured a screenshot and used an image tool to get the exact RGB colors of the UI.
Then I looked for a font that would mimic the old DOS font the closest possible (they were not really fonts, they were embedded in the ROM).
After some tweaks, I came up with this:
[img]https://i.ibb.co/B2Yt5rZ/total-commander-xtgold.png[/img]
Some considerations:
1- I did it for fun and I reverted it back. I kept the font and the ini file, though.
2- Unfortunately, I don't know how to make it ALL blue. Does anyone know?
3- Selecting files in XTGold would add small diamond icons next to the file name. This is not how it is done in TC. So I went online looking for some XTG images and found that light blue being used as a cursor (instead of the grey background/black font colors of XTG 3). So I decided to use it to highlight selected files. I had to take some liberty with it.
I hope you enjoy it.
So I had it installed in a virtual machine, captured a screenshot and used an image tool to get the exact RGB colors of the UI.
Then I looked for a font that would mimic the old DOS font the closest possible (they were not really fonts, they were embedded in the ROM).
After some tweaks, I came up with this:
[img]https://i.ibb.co/B2Yt5rZ/total-commander-xtgold.png[/img]
Some considerations:
1- I did it for fun and I reverted it back. I kept the font and the ini file, though.
2- Unfortunately, I don't know how to make it ALL blue. Does anyone know?
3- Selecting files in XTGold would add small diamond icons next to the file name. This is not how it is done in TC. So I went online looking for some XTG images and found that light blue being used as a cursor (instead of the grey background/black font colors of XTG 3). So I decided to use it to highlight selected files. I had to take some liberty with it.
I hope you enjoy it.
Last edited by pplupo on 2021-05-21, 19:34 UTC, edited 2 times in total.
Re: Nostalgia: Total Commander looking like XTree Gold
With this setting: https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/bluetc.png2- Unfortunately, I don't know how to make it ALL blue. Does anyone know?
License #524 (1994)
Danish Total Commander Translator
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Re: Nostalgia: Total Commander looking like XTree Gold
Oh, wow! I'll totally do this again! hahahapetermad wrote: ↑2021-05-21, 15:10 UTCWith this setting: https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/bluetc.png2- Unfortunately, I don't know how to make it ALL blue. Does anyone know?
Re: Nostalgia: Total Commander looking like XTree Gold
[img]https://i.ibb.co/B2Yt5rZ/total-commander-xtgold.png[/img]petermad wrote: ↑2021-05-21, 15:10 UTCWith this setting: https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/bluetc.png2- Unfortunately, I don't know how to make it ALL blue. Does anyone know?
Alright! This looks better! Thank you, petermad!
Unfortunately, I cannot change:
- Driver buttons background.
- Scroll bar background
- Menu fonts
- Tabs font color and background
- Panel title (Name Ext Size etc)
Re: Nostalgia: Total Commander looking like XTree Gold
- Driver buttons background.Unfortunately, I cannot change:
- Driver buttons background.
- Scroll bar background
- Menu fonts
- Tabs font color and background
- Panel title (Name Ext Size etc)
- Tabs font color and background
- Panel title (Name Ext Size etc)
These three are all set with Color -> "Others:" -> "Dark Mode:" -> "Highlight"
See https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/morebluetc.png
- Scroll bar background
- Menu fonts
These two has to be set by tweaking Windows Registry ( [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Colors] )
License #524 (1994)
Danish Total Commander Translator
TC 11.03 32+64bit on Win XP 32bit & Win 7, 8.1 & 10 (22H2) 64bit, 'Everything' 1.5.0.1371a
TC 3.50 on Android 6 & 13
Try: TC Extended Menus | TC Languagebar | TC Dark Help | PHSM-Calendar
Danish Total Commander Translator
TC 11.03 32+64bit on Win XP 32bit & Win 7, 8.1 & 10 (22H2) 64bit, 'Everything' 1.5.0.1371a
TC 3.50 on Android 6 & 13
Try: TC Extended Menus | TC Languagebar | TC Dark Help | PHSM-Calendar
Re: Nostalgia: Total Commander looking like XTree Gold
Do you know the keys you changed?petermad wrote: ↑2021-05-21, 21:06 UTC- Driver buttons background.Unfortunately, I cannot change:
- Driver buttons background.
- Scroll bar background
- Menu fonts
- Tabs font color and background
- Panel title (Name Ext Size etc)
- Tabs font color and background
- Panel title (Name Ext Size etc)
These three are all set with Color -> "Others:" -> "Dark Mode:" -> "Highlight"
See https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/morebluetc.png
- Scroll bar background
- Menu fonts
These two has to be set by tweaking Windows Registry ( [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Colors] )
Do you know how to change the font for the menus (not just the color)?
Re: Nostalgia: Total Commander looking like XTree Gold
I didn't change any for those screenshots - The menu takes the color of the Dak Mode: BackgroundDo you know the keys you changed?
The Scrollbar in my screenshot is blue, but that is in Windows 7, in my Windows 10 it is black - and the scrollbar button is gray in both OS's
You could try to change:
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[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Colors]
Scrollbar
You can change the Menu font in:
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[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\WindowMetrics]
MenuFont
Also consider that changes in the Windows Registry, will affect all Windows programs, not just TC.
Yoo have to log out and in to Windows to see the effect of changes made to the Registry.
You can also use Winaero Tweaker to change the system menu font: https://winaero.com/downloads/winaerotweaker.zip
This is my best shot at making TC 10.00 look like my god old Norton Commander 4.0: https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/nc4tc10.png
EDIT:
For those who could be interested - here are the settings used for the Norton Commander 4.0 look:
wincmd.ini:
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[Configuration]
UseNewDefFont=1
SetEncoding=äö.do.not.remove
firstmnu=2298
FirstTimeIconLib=0
FirstTime=0
SeparateTree=0
PanelsVertical=0
StartupScreen=0
DarkMode=2
Aligned extension=1
ShowHiddenSystem=1
UseLongNames=1
Small83Names=0
OldStyleTree=0
DirBrackets=0
ShowParentDirInRoot=0
SortDirsByName=0
SortUpper=0
IconOverlays=1
IconsSpecialFolders=3
Showicons=2
ShowEXEandLNKicons=2
IconsInMenus=16
IconsOnNet=1
OldListIcons=1
OldDriveIcons=2
ResolutionSpecific=0
AutoSizeDialogs=1
[ColorsDark]
TreeLineColor=-1
TreeTriangles=0
DarkForeground=16777045
DarkBackground=11141120
InverseCursor=1
ThemedCursor=0
InverseSelection=0
BackColor=-1
BackColor2=-1
ForeColor=-1
MarkColor=-1
CursorColor=11184640
CursorText=0
DarkHighlight=8388608
[Tabstops]
0=166
1=174
3=241
4=115
6=550
5=100
AdjustWidth=1
[Layout]
ButtonBarVertical=1
DriveBar1=1
DriveBar2=1
DriveBarFlat=1
InterfaceFlat=0
DriveCombo=1
DirectoryTabs=1
XPthemeBg=0
CurDir=1
TabHeader=1
StatusBar=1
CmdLine=1
KeyButtons=1
HistoryHotlistButtons=1
BreadCrumbBar=1
[Buttonbar]
Buttonheight=29
Buttonheight96=29
FlatIcons=1
SmallIcons=1
SmallIconSize=16
SmallIconSize96=16
DefaultDpi=96
XPstyle=1
[AllResolutions]
FontSize=10
FontName=Courier New
FontSizeWindow=10
FontNameWindow=Courier New
FontWeight=700
FontWeightWindow=700
FontNameDialog=Courier New
maximized=0
x=410
y=125
dx=1100
dy=800
Divider=500
DividerQuickView=500
DividerComments=500
Tabstops=166,174,241,115,550,100
monitor(0,0,1920,1080;96)=410,125,1100,800
FontCharset=1
FontCharsetWindow=1
FontCharsetDialog=1
[left]
path=c:\
ViewMode=-1
activepanelcolor=-1
activepanelcolor2=-1
activepanelcolordark=-1
activepanelcolordark2=-1
ShowAllDetails=1
SpecialView=0
show=1
sortorder=4
negative Sortorder=1
[right]
path=c:\
ViewMode=-1
activepanelcolor=-1
activepanelcolor2=-1
activepanelcolordark=-1
activepanelcolordark2=-1
ShowAllDetails=1
SpecialView=0
show=1
sortorder=4
negative Sortorder=1
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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\WindowMetrics]
"MenuFont"=hex:f3,ff,ff,ff,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,bc,02,00,00,00,\
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,43,00,6f,00,75,00,72,00,69,00,65,00,72,00,20,00,4e,00,\
65,00,77,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"MenuHeight"="-315"
"MenuWidth"="-315"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Colors]
"Hilight"="0 170 170"
"HilightText"="0 0 0"
EDIT 2:
I found this Menu for TC that I made years ago to mimic the menu of Norton Commander 4.0:
Wcmd_nc4_eng.mnu
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POPUP "&Left"
MENUITEM "&Brief\tCtrl-F1", 101
MENUITEM "&Full\tCtrl-F2", 102
MENUITEM "Comments\tShift-Ctrl-F2", 100
MENUITEM "T&humbnail view\tShift+Ctrl+F1", 69
MENUITEM "Custom columns\tShift+F1", 70
MENUITEM "&Info\tCtrl-L", 503
MENUITEM "&Tree\tCtrl-F8", 103
MENUITEM "Quick &view\tCtrl-Q", 104
MENUITEM "Branch vie&w\tCtrl+B", 2034
MENUITEM "Verti&cal alignment", 305
MENUITEM "N&ew folder tab\tCtrl-T", 3001
MENUITEM "Lin&k", 2300
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "&Name\tCtrl-F3", 121
MENUITEM "E&xtension\tCtrl-F4", 122
MENUITEM "Ti&me\tCtrl-F5", 124
MENUITEM "&Size\tCtrl-F6", 123
MENUITEM "&Unsorted\tCtrl-F7", 125
MENUITEM "Reversed &order", 130
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "&Re-read\tCtrl-R", 540
MENUITEM "Fi<er", 114
MENUITEM "*.*", 113
MENUITEM "&All Files", 112
MENUITEM "&Programs", 111
MENUITEM "&Drive\tAlt-F1", 131
END_POPUP
POPUP "&Files"
POPUP "&Help"
MENUITEM "&Index\tF1", 610
MENUITEM "&Keyboard", 620
MENUITEM "&Registration Info", 630
MENUITEM "&Visit Wincmd's Web Site", 640
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "&About Windows Commander", 690
END_POPUP
STARTMENU
MENUITEM "&View\tF3", 903
MENUITEM "&Edit\tF4", 904
MENUITEM "&Copy\tF5", 905
MENUITEM "&Rename or move\tF6", 906
MENUITEM "&Make directory\tF7", 907
MENUITEM "&Delete\tF8", 908
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "File &attributes", 502
MENUITEM "Version information\tAlt-Enter", 510
MENUITEM "Edit comment\tCtrl-Z", 2700
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "Select &group\tGray +", 521
MENUITEM "Deselec&t group\tGray -", 522
MENUITEM "&Invert Selection\tGray *", 525
MENUITEM "Re&store selection\tGray /", 529
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
POPUP "&Pack"
MENUITEM "&Pack files...\tAlt-F5", 508
MENUITEM "&Unpack files...\tAlt-F9", 509
MENUITEM "&Test archive(s)\tShift-Alt-F9", 518
MENUITEM "&Open self extracting archive\tCtrl-PgDn", 2003
END_POPUP
POPUP "Sp&lit"
MENUITEM "&Split file...", 560
MENUITEM "&Combine files...", 561
END_POPUP
POPUP "Enc&ode"
MENUITEM "&Encode file (MIME, UUE, XXE)...", 562
MENUITEM "&Decode file (MIME, UUE, XXE, BinHex)...", 563
END_POPUP
POPUP "Checks&um"
MENUITEM "&Create CRC checksums (SFV format)...", 564
MENUITEM "&Verify CRC checksums (from SFV files)...", 565
END_POPUP
POPUP "Pri&nt"
MENUITEM "File &list...", 2027
MENUITEM "File list with &subdirs...", 2028
MENUITEM "File &contents\tCtrl-F9", 504
END_POPUP
POPUP "Cop&y"
MENUITEM "Copy &filename(s) to clipboard", 2017
MENUITEM "Copy &pathname + filename(s) to clipboard", 2018
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "Copy &source pathname to clipboard", 2029
MENUITEM "Copy &target pathname to clipboard", 2030
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "Copy &network filename(s) to clipboard", 2021
END_POPUP
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "&Quit\tAlt-F4", 24340
END_POPUP
POPUP "&Commands"
MENUITEM "WC &tree\tAlt-F10", 500
MENUITEM "&Find file\tAlt-F7", 501
MENUITEM "System &information", 506
MENUITEM "Set &volume label", 505
MENUITEM "Directory si&zes\tShift-Alt-Enter", 2014
MENUITEM "Directory &hotlist\tCtrl-D", 526
MENUITEM "Bac&kground transfer manager...", 559
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "&Swap panels\tCtrl-U", 531
MENUITEM "Target&=source", 532
MENUITEM "center &Panel divider", 909
MENUITEM "Vertical &alignment", 305
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "&Compare directories", 533
MENUITEM "&Mark newer, hide same files", 534
MENUITEM "S&ynchronize directories", 2020
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "Compare files &by content", 2022
MENUITEM "Multi-&rename tool\tCtrl-M", 2400
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "M&enu file edit", 700
MENUITEM "E&xtension file edit", 507
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "Run &DOS", 511
END_POPUP
POPUP "&Options"
MENUITEM "&Configuration...", 490
MENUITEM "&Editor...", 496
MENUITEM "C&onfirmation...", 495
MENUITEM "Comp&ression...", 491
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "Change &button bar...", 498
MENUITEM "&Save position", 493
MENUITEM "Save settin&gs", 580
MENUITEM "E&dit settings files...", 581
END_POPUP
POPUP "FT&P"
MENUITEM "&FTP Connect\tCtrl-F", 550
MENUITEM "FTP Disc&onnect\tShift-Ctrl-F", 552
MENUITEM "FT&P New Connection\tCtrl-N", 551
MENUITEM "Abort FTP-&Command", 554
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "&Resume FTP download", 555
MENUITEM "&Add to FTP download &list", 557
MENUITEM "FTP &Download from list", 558
MENUITEM "Bac&kground transfer manager...", 559
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "FTP Sho&w Hidden Files", 553
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "PORT co&nnection to other PC", 2300
END_POPUP
POPUP "&Net"
MENUITEM "&Network Connections", 512
MENUITEM "&Disconnect Network Drives", 513
MENUITEM "&Share Current Directory", 514
MENUITEM "&Unshare Directory", 515
MENUITEM "Show &admin shares", 2204
END_POPUP
HELP_BREAK
POPUP "&Right"
MENUITEM "&Brief\tCtrl-F1", 101
MENUITEM "&Full\tCtrl-F2", 102
MENUITEM "Comments\tShift-Ctrl-F2", 100
MENUITEM "T&humbnail view\tShift+Ctrl+F1", 69
MENUITEM "Custom columns\tShift+F1", 70
MENUITEM "&Info\tCtrl-L", 503
MENUITEM "&Tree\tCtrl-F8", 103
MENUITEM "Quick &view\tCtrl-Q", 104
MENUITEM "Branch vie&w\tCtrl+B", 2034
MENUITEM "Verti&cal alignment", 305
MENUITEM "N&ew folder tab\tCtrl-T", 3001
MENUITEM "Lin&k", 2300
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "&Name\tCtrl-F3", 221
MENUITEM "E&xtension\tCtrl-F4", 222
MENUITEM "Ti&me\tCtrl-F5", 224
MENUITEM "&Size\tCtrl-F6", 223
MENUITEM "&Unsorted\tCtrl-F7", 225
MENUITEM "Reversed &order", 230
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "&Re-read\tCtrl-R", 540
MENUITEM "Fi<er", 214
MENUITEM "*.*", 213
MENUITEM "&All Files", 212
MENUITEM "&Programs", 211
MENUITEM "&Drive\tAlt-F2", 231
END_POPUP
License #524 (1994)
Danish Total Commander Translator
TC 11.03 32+64bit on Win XP 32bit & Win 7, 8.1 & 10 (22H2) 64bit, 'Everything' 1.5.0.1371a
TC 3.50 on Android 6 & 13
Try: TC Extended Menus | TC Languagebar | TC Dark Help | PHSM-Calendar
Danish Total Commander Translator
TC 11.03 32+64bit on Win XP 32bit & Win 7, 8.1 & 10 (22H2) 64bit, 'Everything' 1.5.0.1371a
TC 3.50 on Android 6 & 13
Try: TC Extended Menus | TC Languagebar | TC Dark Help | PHSM-Calendar
Re: Nostalgia: Total Commander looking like XTree Gold
Great. This is the first time I saw it, and I didn't realized what is is good for
TC 10.xx / #266191
Win 10 x64
Win 10 x64
Re: Nostalgia: Total Commander looking like XTree Gold
2Peter
I played a little with it the other day - you can download and use this: https://madsenworld.dk/tc-menus/nc4.zip - copy content to your TC program folder
Make these two buttons in your buttonbar:
I played a little with it the other day - you can download and use this: https://madsenworld.dk/tc-menus/nc4.zip - copy content to your TC program folder
Make these two buttons in your buttonbar:
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TOTALCMD#BAR#DATA
%COMMANDER_EXE% /N /i=%COMMANDER_PATH%\xtc10nc4a.ini
%COMMANDER_EXE%
Open Total Commander with Norton Commander look
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TOTALCMD#BAR#DATA
%COMMANDER_EXE% /N /i=%COMMANDER_PATH%\xtc10nc4b.ini
%COMMANDER_EXE%
Open Total Commander with Norton Commander look (no icons)
To make the button:
1. Mark the text in the box here above (click SELECT ALL).
2. Copy it to the ClipBoard (press Ctrl+C).
3. Right click on TC's buttonbar and choose "Paste".
License #524 (1994)
Danish Total Commander Translator
TC 11.03 32+64bit on Win XP 32bit & Win 7, 8.1 & 10 (22H2) 64bit, 'Everything' 1.5.0.1371a
TC 3.50 on Android 6 & 13
Try: TC Extended Menus | TC Languagebar | TC Dark Help | PHSM-Calendar
Danish Total Commander Translator
TC 11.03 32+64bit on Win XP 32bit & Win 7, 8.1 & 10 (22H2) 64bit, 'Everything' 1.5.0.1371a
TC 3.50 on Android 6 & 13
Try: TC Extended Menus | TC Languagebar | TC Dark Help | PHSM-Calendar