Questions on New Directory Hotlist and History

[AntonyD]

https://ibb.co/2ZCrwCs
As I understood - this is the new Directory Hotlist and History
So I have questions:
1) Where is the saving of all records? In the ini file, I deleted everything under the sections [RightHistory] & [LeftHistory] - but I still see what is on the screen. I even restarted TC itself after that - but no lucky - these records are still here... So When does a full save occur, so I could for sure delete them at that place where they were saved?
2) How to quickly delete records?
3) What are those repeated numbers on the right side?
4) Why is there any separation? It can be seen that there is a line above the penultimate record. And then there are no numbers on the right.
5) It seems like support for filters / search in this list is declared. BUT! It turns out that you need to start pressing the letters so that the filter field appears. Unintuitive. In addition, This field appears unclearly relative to which object. If you expand the Total window to full screen and call this list for the right panel with the mouse, and then click any key-letter, then the filtering field will appear somewhere OUTSIDE the screen|monitor. It looks like it's just a bug. But even when we try to open the filter field in the left panel, we see a very unaligned position of all elements:
https://ibb.co/nrQPhQ3

[KozakMak]

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[Configuration]
DirUsageLocation=%TEMP%\totalcmd\

[AntonyD]

DirUsageLocation
1) I don't have such option in my INI file. Even UltraTC Configuration Editor does not know anything about it(((
2) Even If I had it - mentioned path '%TEMP%\totalcmd\' is a DIR! And not a file!
So - HOW information about last used catalogs could be saved inside DIR object?

[Horst.Epp]

DirUsageLocation
1) I don't have such option in my INI file. Even UltraTC Configuration Editor does not know anything about it(((
2) Even If I had it - mentioned path '%TEMP%\totalcmd\' is a DIR! And not a file!
So - HOW information about last used catalogs could be saved inside DIR object?

1. How shouid the old Ultra TC Configuration Editor know about TC 11 options ?
2. Thats normal and the default doesn't need such an entry, you have to create one to change the location.
3. DirUsageLocation points to an location, the file name is fixed as tcDirFrq.txt

[AntonyD]

3. DirUsageLocation points to an location, the file name is fixed as tcDirFrq.txt

But I do NOT have such file! As I said - when I made my tests and searches - about some entries from this new list - I've checked recursively ALL subdirs, starting from .\TOTALCMD dir. So WHERE there these records were saved in fact during restart? And they WERE saved - because as I said - after restart TC I saw them again in this list!

[Horst.Epp]

3. DirUsageLocation points to an location, the file name is fixed as tcDirFrq.txt

But I do NOT have such file! As I said - when I made my tests and searches - about some entries from this new list - I've checked recursively ALL subdirs, starting from .\TOTALCMD dir. So WHERE there these records were saved in fact during restart? And they WERE saved - because as I said - after restart TC I saw them again in this list!

Who said that it is a sub-dir of TC ?
The default location for tcDirFrq.txt is
C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\GHISLER\

If you had Everything installed it takes 2 seconds to find it.

[AntonyD]

ouch,,,, I found.
%LOCALAPPDATA%\GHISLER\

Maybe I missed something - but IF i SAID precisely that UseIniInProgramDir=7 - does it should mean that ALL other stuff which TC will produce/create/temporarily save - also should be somewhere "InProgramDir" - and not somewhere outside???
Let's just say - it's generally strange that there are some paths that are OUTSIDE the installation directory by default.

[AntonyD]

No. Something more needs to be explained.
Right now I see one record in this new DirList - very rare record - so I can be sure - that if i will search it - I should find only one entry....
So I did the search again - now also including the path %LOCALAPPDATA%\GHISLER\
And....
And I did not find this item here... File tcDirFrq.txt contains only 4 records - but my list contains more that 15....
I completely do not understand this new logic and new DirList object....

[AntonyD]

And I hope that Mr.Ghisler will come here and explain this new "trick" and all others:
2) How to quickly delete records?
3) What are those repeated numbers on the right side?
4) Why is there any separation? It can be seen that there is a line above the penultimate record. And then there are no numbers on the right.
5) It seems like support for filters / search in this list is declared. BUT! It turns out that you need to start pressing the letters so that the filter field appears. Unintuitive. In addition, This field appears unclearly relative to which object. If you expand the Total window to full screen and call this list for the right panel with the mouse, and then click any key-letter, then the filtering field will appear somewhere OUTSIDE the screen|monitor. It looks like it's just a bug. But even when we try to open the filter field in the left panel, we see a very unaligned position of all elements:
https://ibb.co/nrQPhQ3

A! And one more question - if there is a path with a very long name in the history, we get a very indecently huge sheet of the list, in fact covering almost the entire interface of Total. IMHO such strings/lists should have some H.size limit - above which information is displayed only in tooltips. And more than that! In Smart Tips! Not standard from Win32API! Because a very long name in these tooltips will look stupid in the same way and will not fit on the screen. It is necessary that the tooltip in a smart way shows such long lines in several lines on the screen.

[white]

2) How to quickly delete records?

Try the Shift+Delete keyboard combo.

3) What are those repeated numbers on the right side?

I think how many times the folder was accessed.

4) Why is there any separation? It can be seen that there is a line above the penultimate record. And then there are no numbers on the right.

You haven't looked in the Help?

2. The arrow down button opens a list of recently visited and frequently used directories.
This list now supports quick search and quick filtering by typing the name.
Use an asterisk * as the first search character to search the whole path instead of just the last part (file/folder name).

The context menu supports the following features:
- opening the folder in a new tab or the other panel, or both
- remove a directory from the history or most frequently used list
- copy path to the clipboard
- show all entries when using history thinning, also those where the user didn't do anything (just passing through)
- reverse order (history at the top or botton)
- show/hide list of most frequently used directories

[petermad]

. File tcDirFrq.txt contains only 4 records - but my list contains more that 15....

The file is only saved when TC is closed - not even using the cm_ConfigSaveDirHistory command does not save tcDirFrq.txt
tcDirFrq.txt is saved even if "Options" -> "Operation" -> "Save on exit" -> "Directory .history" is disabled.

In my oppionion cm_ConfigSaveDirHistory should also save tcDirFrq.txt
In my oppionion tcDirFrq.txt should NOT be saved if "Options" -> "Operation" -> "Save on exit" -> "Directory .history" is disabled - it could be a security problem.

2) How to quickly delete records?

Press Shift+DEL on each record - you can hold the two keys down until the list is empty - or delete the [LeftHistory] and [RightHistory] sections in wincmd.ini (after you have closed TC unless "Options" -> "Operation" -> "Save on exit" -> "Directory .history" is disabled).

3) What are those repeated numbers on the right side?

Shows how often the folder has been entered

4) Why is there any separation? It can be seen that there is a line above the penultimate record. And then there are no numbers on the right.

The separator is between the ordinary list and the list of frequently used folders

[petermad]

1. How shouid the old Ultra TC Configuration Editor know about TC 11 options ?

I will update the English.cedf for Ultra TC Editors once TC 11.00 is feature finished.

[Dalai]

In my oppionion cm_ConfigSaveDirHistory should also save tcDirFrq.txt
In my oppionion tcDirFrq.txt should NOT be saved if "Options" -> "Operation" -> "Save on exit" -> "Directory .history" is disabled - it could be a security problem.

I agree with both of these.

Regards
Dalai

[AntonyD]

The separator is between the ordinary list and the list of frequently used folders

OK - do we have an option - to Disable this second sub-list: frequently used folders?

[Horst.Epp]

The separator is between the ordinary list and the list of frequently used folders

OK - do we have an option - to Disable this second sub-list: frequently used folders?

Currently not.
I would never disable it.
It is in some way a global hotlist independend of the side.
A function which I have on another file manager and miss in TC.
Whats your problem with it ?