Following a link sub-folder sizes are not derived from Everything

[ghisler(Author)]

This is expected behavior. Total Commander just asks Everything about the current path, it doesn't try to follow links by itself. What you can do is open the Everything settings and go to the Database -> Folders page and add the junction itself as a "Folder".
For example, if the jucntion is named
c:\Subdir\Junction
and points to
c:\SomeOtherDir
then you need to add c:\Subdir\Junction to Everything 1.4.1 to make it index it.

[Horst.Epp]

I'm wondering why it works for all that junctions inside c:\users\username.
Without any special setting, TC shows the dir sizes if I double-click on any of these links.

[Horst.Epp]

I found the difference and the solution
The junction must have a Deny Read and Execute for the group Everyone.
Now it also works with my 64 junction in the Total7zip plugin.
TC shows the dir size as usual.

[petermad]

2Horst.Epp

The junction must have a Deny Read and Execute for the group Everyone.

Can you set that when you make the junction, or do you do it via the context menu?

[Horst.Epp]

2Horst.Epp

The junction must have a Deny Read and Execute for the group Everyone.

Can you set that when you make the junction, or do you do it via the context menu?

With one of your em_commands

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[em_ext_junction]
cmd=%COMSPEC% /K
param=if exist %P%N\* (mklink /J %T%N %P%N) else (echo The cursor must be on a FOLDER)
path=%SYSTEMDRIVE%\
menu=Make Junction in Opposite Panel to FOLDER Under Cursor (Not on Network)
button=%COMMANDER_EXE%,12

[petermad]

2Horst.Epp

I meant, how do you set "Deny Read and Execute for the group Everyone" - I tried it via the Context menu's Security tab, and it worked. But I was wondering whether it could be set when the Junction is created...?

[Horst.Epp]

2Horst.Epp

I meant, how do you set "Deny Read and Execute for the group Everyone" - I tried it via the Context menu's Security tab, and it worked. But I was wondering whether it could be set when the Junction is created...?

The only idea I have is using Cacls or ICacls to change the security after the Junction is created.

[tuska]

2ghisler(Author)

This gives me these results in Everything 1.4.1.1024 (x64) and Everything 1.5.0.1355a (x64) || Everything Service ticked(!):

• GetDirSize=3 does NOT work for me with Junctions (<LNK> or <LINK>); Automatic, only with 'Everything'

This is expected behavior.
Total Commander just asks Everything about the current path, it doesn't try to follow links by itself.
What you can do is open the Everything settings and go to the Database -> Folders page and add the junction itself as a "Folder".

Thanks for the hint!

Now both the folder size display with the setting "Automatic, only with 'Everything'" works
as well as the search query in TC including Everything (without or with TC parameters ed:, ev:).

In such a case, the number of folders and files in the status bar of Everything may increase,
if the folder for which a junction was created was already indexed NTFS anyway.

[Horst.Epp]

2tuska
The Author of Everything suggests not to add junctions as folders.
For all the default Windows junctions there is no need as they work out of the box.
For own created junctions my setting from above works flawless.
Files from junctions on the same volume are already in the index.
Files from junctions to other volumes are part of the index of this volumes
or they are indexed as folders.

[tuska]

2tuska
The Author of Everything suggests not to add junctions as folders.
For all the default Windows junctions there is no need as they work out of the box.
For own created junctions my setting from above works flawless.
Files from junctions on the same volume are already in the index.
Files from junctions to other volumes are part of the index of this volumes
or they are indexed as folders.

Yes, I agree with all the points.

I myself generally exclude junctions in the Everything settings to avoid double entries in the search results.
See also point 9. in this image (example of junctions for multiple synchronisations).

I was only interested in Junctions in connection with the TC options under
Configuration > Options... > Operation > Calculate space occupied by subdirectories > 'Everything'.
to test it out. (My default setting is "Manual: Alt+Shift+Enter").

Results

Junctions - Display of folder sizes in TC with integration of Everything

TC: Configuration > Options... > Operation > Calculate space occupied by subdirectories > 'Everything'

1. Only with the TC option "Automatic, only with 'Everything'" is it necessary to set up a FOLDER INDEXING in Everything.
2. With the other two TC options, namely "Automatic, local drives only" and "Automatic, also on network",
   the folder sizes for a junction were displayed.

Junctions - Search in TC with integration of Everything

TC: Search in separate process... Alt+Shift+F7 > 'Everything'
TC: Configuration > Options... > Operation > Calculate space occupied by subdirectories > 'Everything'

1. With NONE of these options, namely "Automatic, local drives only", "Automatic, also on network",
   "Automatic, only with 'Everything'", you get a search result in TC.
2. A search result in TC is only obtained WITHOUT using Everything in TC, i.e. 'Everything' MUST be unchecked!
   - OR -
3. ... after setting up FOLDER INDEXING in Everything for the Junction.

[ghisler(Author)]

I found the difference and the solution
The junction must have a Deny Read and Execute for the group Everyone.

If you do this, Total Commander cannot list the content of the junction, so it looks up the destination and goes there instead. You can see this by the change of the current directory field. Of course Everything can then show the directory sizes because Total Commander shows a real directory, not a junction.

[Horst.Epp]

I found the difference and the solution
The junction must have a Deny Read and Execute for the group Everyone.

If you do this, Total Commander cannot list the content of the junction, so it looks up the destination and goes there instead. You can see this by the change of the current directory field. Of course Everything can then show the directory sizes because Total Commander shows a real directory, not a junction.

For the same reason, all the default OS junctions are working fine with Everything enabled in TC.
Now I have to make a small cmd file to make this setting after I created a new junction.
It's not urgent as I have only a few such junctions which can be changed by hand.

[ghisler(Author)]

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