New file manager - Hetman. Looks cool.

[vladptr]

Hi!

Recently I have found new filemanager - Hetman (http://www.myhetman.com). Currently it is in beta and looks promising. I like Total Commander but Hetman has nice look&feel and supports several features Total Commander is definetely lacking. I mean quick file navigation with error highlighting - just type and see the template, built-in editor with syntax highlight and console. Is it possible to add similar features to TC? I think that TC users would welcome them a lot.

Thank you in advance.

[Clo]

2vladptr
Hello !
Welcome on board!
- This looks fine. However, the most "missing" features you quote are available for TC as free plugins…
- I didn't see any spot of a language-feature on that site…
- No version for Win 9x…
- Archive 15 MB... a bit heavy.
- So, I didn't try to know the price, important…

 Kind regards,
Claude
Clo

[WizardLee]

I download a trival version. And I delete it after 1 minute.

[vladptr]

2vladptr
Hello !
Welcome on board!
- This looks fine. However, the most "missing" features you quote are available for TC as free plugins…

Could you recommend me plugins that add to TC editor with syntax highlight, quick navigation with error highlighting and console?
Actually I'm not a TC pro as you may have already guessed
Thanks a lot

[franck8244]

A File Manager in Java

I must admit it's a good joke though we are not the 1st of April

All you asked for is available in TC since a long long time

2WizardLee
you are pretty slow...
Install->Launch->Close->Uninstall : Too Ugly

2vladptr
On Totalcmd.net, you'll find:
Plugin with syntax highlighting : SynPlus (2.6.7) (lister plugin)
Console : TConsole (2.1) (FS PLugin)

[nevidimka]

A File Manager in Java

I must admit it's a good joke though we are not the 1st of April

No, it's not a joke. IMHO it's a wise decision if you plan to create a multiplatform FM.

Cross-platform support. [coming soon]
Linux and Mac OS implementations will make Hetman a real breakthrough in the world of file managers. For each popular platform you can use your favorite program.

Another interesting point:
December 9, 2004 EAP Build 225 Released
December 22, 2004 EAP Build 253 Released
7 public beta releases in 14 days.

[franck8244]

2nevidimka

So you don't get my joke

I reinstalled it to test it a bit further ( Clo )

In the present state I do not call Hetmann a file manager

[pdavit]

Another interesting point:
December 9, 2004 EAP Build 225 Released
December 22, 2004 EAP Build 253 Released
7 public beta releases in 14 days.

Well, this is natural when a tool is on the initial development stages.

[jpgrosen]

Hi!

Recently I have found new filemanager - Hetman (http://www.myhetman.com). Currently it is in beta and looks promising. I like Total Commander but Hetman has nice look&feel and supports several features Total Commander is definetely lacking. I mean quick file navigation with error highlighting - just type and see the template, built-in editor with syntax highlight and console. Is it possible to add similar features to TC? I think that TC users would welcome them a lot.

Thank you in advance.

I like the quick file navigation very much, but the text editor is out of scope for a File Manager. There are plenty of much better text editors out there. They proudly proclaim that it has Word Wrap support, but come on which editor hasn’t? Even notepad has word wrap.
If you want a text editor look into e.g. UltraEdit, it you need to do any type of coding you need a IDE (for Java look up IntelliJ IDEA or Eclipse). Coding is about much more that just syntax highlighting, refactoring for one thing.

Sincerely

Jens Peter Grosen

[jpgrosen]

No, it's not a joke. IMHO it's a wise decision if you plan to create a multiplatform FM.

Cross-platform support. [coming soon]
Linux and Mac OS implementations will make Hetman a real breakthrough in the world of file managers. For each popular platform you can use your favorite program.

Java is great for creating cross platform server side applications, but Java has always been weak for desktop applications. Just launching Hetman and it sucks up 35MB of RAM and eventhough I have 1 GB of RAM Windows still slowly swaps unused applications to the disk, meaning that it will be more slow to work with than TC (6MB) when you need it. I want my File Manager always running, appear instantly, get the job done and go away again.

Another interesting point:
December 9, 2004 EAP Build 225 Released
December 22, 2004 EAP Build 253 Released
7 public beta releases in 14 days.

They don't show what has changed in the builds. Even if they have a fast development now, they have a long way to go. And they will need a lot more features (e.g. showing the date of files next to the filename) before they start to really compete (and make money) with the many other file managers out there. Also the development speed slows down when the application becomes more complex.

Sincerely

Jens Peter Grosen

[Harrier]

They don't show what has changed in the builds. Even if they have a fast development now, they have a long way to go. And they will need a lot more features (e.g. showing the date of files next to the filename) before they start to really compete (and make money) with the many other file managers out there. Also the development speed slows down when the application becomes more complex.

Sincerely

Jens Peter Grosen

If you know anything about XP - development speed can stay stable. But it seems that teams work in XP environment: http://www.softage.com.ua/en/approach.htm

A well thought out rigorous approach to software development (www.extremeprogramming.org) is our key factor.

So we can expect that features quatinity will grow in the future fast as now.

I liked very much build in editor. Usually I use special IDE for my java projects but sometimes I need to change some external files and I prefere to avoid changing them in the notepad. Hetman does this great.

As for speed and memory - I have enough fast computer to notice difference. Usability is more important.

Multiplatform support is nice. Sometimes I work on Mac OS X and I hate swith to MC.

[Lefteous]

2Harrier

Multiplatform support is nice. Sometimes I work on Mac OS X and I hate swith to MC.

In contrast to Hetman where multiplatform support is just planned there is another FileManager which is based on Java called muCommander which works on MAC OS X, Windows and Linux.
The problem about a cross platform filemanager is that filemanager requires a lot of platform specific features. Using the Java technology you can save a lot of time for many type of applications. For filemanagers you won't be able to save a lot of time. You have to write so called Java Native Interface (JNI) libaries which are platform specific. You have to write these libraries for each platfom that supports a specific feature. That requires knowledge of every single platform.
The other way to solve this problem is to write a simple filemanager which is based just on Java core features. This is muCommanders approach.

[wheeler]

I use Azureus which is based on Java. I simply don't understand why this program uses alot of memory when I leave it open for 8 or more hours... this and my own experience with Java(3D) makes me hope Totalcmd will never be written in Java

I like the site of Hetman though.