Can the TC panel hide the vertical scroll bar?

[xxxdo1]

Can the TC panel hide the vertical scroll bar?
I looked through previous posts but didn't find a satisfying answer.

[Fla$her]

You can switch to the brief mode by pressing Ctrl+F1, it's not there.
But seriously, why do this?

[xxxdo1]

Hiding the scroll bar panel can show more content, and the scroll bar is a bit wide, not very beautiful

[Fla$her]

Its appearance and width depend on the current theme. In any case, there is no such setting and is unlikely to ever appear, since it's an important part of the interface for indicating the position in the list and quick manual scrolling when holding the slider.

[sa16]

2xxxdo1
I found it convenient to use the scroll bar for Drag&Drop operations.
There is less risk of getting into a subfolder or archive.

[xxxdo1]

2Fla$her
This is the scroll bar style I use in Chrome, modified by loading custom.css. The rounded and narrow scroll bar on the left is more beautiful.
Image: http://cdnjson.com/images/2025/01/25/_2025-01-25_030857.png


2sa16
I think there is no risk of accidental clicks when using the scroll wheel. To reduce the risk of accidental operation, you can use cm_GoToDir

[sa16]

2xxxdo1
I'm talking about using the scroll bar for other purposes - I throw files at it during Drag&Drop operations.

[beb]

Hiding the scroll bar panel can show more content, and the scroll bar is a bit wide, not very beautiful

You can make it approx. twice as narrow compared to the default width via the Windows registry.

WindowMetrics.reg

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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\WindowMetrics]
"ScrollHeight"="-252"
"ScrollWidth"="-252"

"-252" is the default value.
The available range is from "-120" to "-1500".
A specific value within that range is a "desired size in pixels" multiplied by "-15".
So if you prefer the scrollbar width of 15 pixels exactly you can set it as "-225" there (-15*15=-225).
The minimal available value ("-120") is a bit more than twice as narrow compared to the default scroll bar width (252/120=2.1).
The default value ("-252") is translated to 252/15 = 16.8 pixels.
The minimal available value ("-120") is translated to 120/15 = 8 pixels.

Note:
1. As I tested it, reboot is required for the changes to take effect.
2. It affects all the related apps, not only Total Commander.

Edit: math error

[xxxdo1]

2beb
Thank you, this method is effective and solved my obsessive-compulsive disorder

[beb]

2xxxdo1
You are welcome.

Glad it helped.

By the way, as to my taste, "-120" is way too narrow, while "-180" (12 pixels) seems pretty "ideal".

[NotNull]

BTW: there is an issue with the scrollbar:
TC 11.51 RC3 x64 (and older versions)@Win11 24H2. Both with out of the box settings.

To reproduce:
- Open C:\Windows in a pane (to see the vertical scrollbar)
- Notice the width of the scrollbar
- Click on scrollbar
- Notice the width of the scrollbar
- Click anywhere else
- Notice the width of the scrollbar


The width of the scrollbar does not return to its original dimensions.
Right-clicking the scrollbar and selecting Scroll here from the context menu restores the original width.

[ghisler(Author)]

I didn't notice anything happening, but I didn't set the value ScrollWidth in the registry. Do you only get this when setting ScrollWidth?

[xxxdo1]

I set ScrollWidth and ScrollHeight, and the above situation did not occur. I used version Win10, TC 11.03

[NotNull]

See screenshot.
Both Windows and TC are out of the box.
To be more precise, these are all the initial Wincmd.ini settings:

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[Configuration]
UseIniInProgramDir=7
DarkMode=2
ShowHiddenSystem=1

Everything=C:\Program Files\Everything 1.5a\Everything64.exe
UseEverythingInstance=1.5a
UseEverything=1
EverythingForTree=0

UseNewDefFont=1
FirstTime=0
FirstTimeIconLib=0

Image: https://i.postimg.cc/3xCCbb7Q/TC-scrollbar.png

[beb]

2NotNull
[Windows:] Start - Settings - Ease of Access - Display - [Display Section:] Simplify and personalize Windows
* Show animations in Windows [On|Off]
* Automatically hide scroll bars in Windows [On|Off]
Image: https://i.imgur.com/kUWQbmg.png
Does switching this [On|Off] affect your described behavior?