Dark mode - "Spinner" controls are not displayed correctly

[GrinGrin]

Hi all !

I just tried the dark mode in TC (v10.00) and tuned a bit to my taste . I then found that up/down spinners are not correctly displayed :
Image: https://1drv.ms/u/s!An6C8VpyNeOejrILzdwEBHuwYmGtwA?e=y2OvJW

On hover, the control is correctly displayed :
Image: https://1drv.ms/u/s!An6C8VpyNeOejrIM7dFAgnVsNod4HA?e=O4wM2h

It can be seen in multiple settings pages, and maybe in some other dialogs.
All instances of this kind of control in an enabled state has this issue, disabled controls are correctly displayed. Standard scrollbars are correctly displayed.
I also reverted the configuration to the defaults and also tried the latest 10.50 beta8, but it is the same

Lastly, may I suggest to add scrollbars/spinners the list of colors the user can change or at least align the backgroun with the defaut dark mode background color?

[white]

They are not actually spin controls, they are just scrollbars. I'm looking for a replacement because Windows 11 doesn't display the up/down triangles until you move the mouse over the control, which is very unfortunate.

[ghisler(Author)]

Unfortunately I could not find a better solution. There is a dedicated "UpDown" common control, but it's much worse than the scrollbar. It only works with fixed minimums and maximums, and it can't be controlled via keyboard. Try for example the "Not older than" field in search: Instead of typing a number, you can press Tab to switch the focus to the "spin control" and then use up/down arrows.

[GrinGrin]

They are not actually spin controls, they are just scrollbars. I'm looking for a replacement because Windows 11 doesn't display the up/down triangles until you move the mouse over the control, which is very unfortunate.

Oops ! missed this one, sorry

Unfortunately I could not find a better solution. There is a dedicated "UpDown" common control, but it's much worse than the scrollbar. It only works with fixed minimums and maximums, and it can't be controlled via keyboard. Try for example the "Not older than" field in search: Instead of typing a number, you can press Tab to switch the focus to the "spin control" and then use up/down arrows.

Thanks for the clarification!

I've just switched back to light mode to realize that arrows are also hidden by default (I don't change TC configuration as frequently to notice that )... It's even worst than in dark mode as control background is the same as the window and is totally invisible until the user hover it Really, what went throught their minds at MS ?!

I think that the famous "auto-hide" toolbar Microsoft implemented some time ago is the culprit

I've tried to change that in Windows settings (Easy of access/ Display / Auto hide scrollbars on Win10 | Accessibility / Visual effects / Always show scrollbars on Win11) but it seems that all apps does not always apply this setting (Explorer and TC does not apply it but Notepad did)
Even with that, I doubt that many users will change this by themselves...

Maybe there is a way to control this behaviour at the control's level and force those scrollbars to be always visible ?

[GrinGrin]

I've tried to change that in Windows settings (Easy of access/ Display / Auto hide scrollbars on Win10 | Accessibility / Visual effects / Always show scrollbars on Win11) but it seems that all apps does not always apply this setting (Explorer and TC does not apply it but Notepad did)

Ok, after more reading, the difference is on what control is used: explorer use Win32 control, Notepad use UWP control

[ghisler(Author)]

Sorry, for now there is no solution.

Moderator message

Moved to "will not be changed"

[iteg]

All dialogs display black rectangles instead of spin buttons. Arrows are drawn when the mouse cursor is hovered over.
https://dropmefiles.com/37Cse
Windows 11 22H2 x64 dark mode.

[white]

Moderator message from: white » 2023-03-06, 08:52 UTC

Merged with this thread.

[TW]

i have this in MRT:

Image: https://i.ibb.co/GTqnP5b/Unbenaknnt.png

also in settings at some places...

maybe this was posted before.

[white]

Moderator message from: white » 2024-11-04, 01:44 UTC

Merged with this thread.

[ghisler(Author)]

That's a different problem, it's a misfeature of Windows 11 where it hides the buttons of the scroll bars, and only shows them when hovering over them with the mouse.

[browny]

Buttons using Marlett font, characters 0x35 and 0x36?
Available since Windows 95.