OT: Moderators = N@zis?

[Roy]

If our moderators would be like Nazis you would be under arrest or dead now!

You think nazis arrested and murdered people in 1920-1930? You think they would believe you at the time if you told them in 15 years they will be murdering millions in gas chambers? Most of them would be shocked and appalled and would not believe it was possible. But it happens one step at a time. First you tell others what they can post and what they can not. The rest is a combination of right circumstances.

I myself would not have chosen that word. Because, among other reasons, I know this would invite heated responses on the subject which has nothing to do with intend and purpose of this particular message thread.

[Sheepdog]

You think nazis arrested and murdered people in 1920-1930?

Guess you didn't make your history lessons well: Yes, Nazis murdered people in the 1920-1930, although they terrorized more than they murdered at this early times.

sheepdog

[Roy]

Noone has to drag out Jews. Just have a look in any serious History Book and there will jump out any tenth of millions of killed people.

And that justifies referencing them in arguments on any subject?

I never heard tolerant people complain about the intolerance of others.

Although someone may find an account of your past experiences entertaining, I am afraid poor Christian will run out of server space if you try to provide here a full list of things you have never heard.

[Sheepdog]

[And that justifies referencing them in arguments on any subject?

Any Subject? I'm not talking about any subject but about Nazis.

It seems to me that you defend the Nazis with your polemical quarrels.

Thus I will refrain from answering you here.

sheepdog

[Roy]

It seems to me that you defend the Nazis with your polemical quarrels.

Now, that's a personal insult. Where is a moderator when you need one?

What, in any of my statements, could be even remotely interpreted as support for nazis by anyone with even a slightest disposition toward a basic comprehension ability?

You must have been triggered by this statement:

We should all be very grateful that we don't live in that time...

We should all be very vigilant to make sure our time is not like that.

[Maxwish]

2 the Moderators:
I think it's time to close this thread! This discussion will never stop any other normal way.....

[Roy]

Roy,

The word "NZ" was used as a synonym for "intolerant" and that is an accurate description of moderators in this forum.

Mind supporting your point of view with some facts?

TIA
Hacker (Moderator)

At first I was really disgusted with the whole attitude toward the leaked beta (discussions are not welcome here, bla-bla-bla) and then you really pissed me off when that other one brutally violated a couple of my messages.

Being pissed off, I called you "intolerant" and "overzealous" which, while not without a merit, might have been a slight exaggeration.

Seriously, I find your performance as moderators inadequate. You are way too visible here (as moderators). Your interference threshold is very low, and your interference methods are improper. You step in on minor occasions and then preach inside someone else's message about nature of the universe. Believe it or not, that tends to piss people off.

You are here not to shape the discussion. Not to filter thoughts. If you want to influence the way a thread is going, get a different nick without the word "Moderator" in it, and then rant your subjective opinion on any subject all you want.

But as a moderator, don't touch anyone's message unless you think it is so bad that it absolutely has to be deleted, and if it is, then delete it without any explanation or way of recourse.

That is a friendly advice. You do of course have a right to do whatever you want, including what you have been doing so far, which will undoubtedly produce many more fascinating threads with historical perspective as the one we have here.

[VadiMGP]

2 the Moderators:
I think it's time to close this thread! This discussion will never stop any other normal way.....

Support++++!!!
It is also time to delete it at all.

[djk]

2 the Moderators:
I think it's time to close this thread! This discussion will never stop any other normal way.....

Support++++!!!
It is also time to delete it at all.

Yes.

[nevidimka]

2 the Moderators:
I think it's time to close this thread! This discussion will never stop any other normal way.....

--support. Let's discuss people here (in an OT-thread) instead such (useless?) discussions will spread out in other factual threads. IMHO this thread was dead (for discussion about moderation) with the very first beginning.

2Roy
You're playing down that what Nazis did! That is (IMHO) the first step on reempower the Nazis. And I don't want to discuss any other facts under such thread title! Didn't you read Wikipedia, did you? Don't you want to understand and respect other people, do you?

There is a tradition in many Usenet newsgroups that once such a comparison is made, the thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress.

[Roy]

You're playing down that what Nazis did!

Where did I do that?

Once and for all, to you, and others who carefully read some pedia but can not read posts they are replying to:

What nazis did during World War II is absolutely horrible and has very little in human history to be compared to, perhaps nothing at all. It is very important that we don't forget what happened, never take it lightly, and be prepared to actively oppose ideologies of that kind in the future.

However, unlike some enthusiastic but shortsighted fanatics, I do not fight the symbols, I fight the issues. I did and will always continue to fight fascism in any of it's forms. But I will not fight a guy who used word "nazis" as a synonym for "intolerant" obviously not attaching any reference to the original meaning of the word.

This is my opinion on the nazis, I have not stated it before in this thread, because it has nothing to do with the subject original poster intended. I now have to state it because you and others assume that if in a thread about performance of moderators I talk about performance of moderators that must mean I am one of the nazis.

[nevidimka]

2Roy

Once and for all, to you, and others who carefully read some pedia but can not read posts they are replying to

How about yourself? Did you respect my opinion?

Yes I'm dogmatic at this point: because Nazis did uncomparable terrible, horrible actions nothing ordinary should be compared with Nazis... and all, who uses a comparison with Nazis in a "ordinary" subject (like the behaviour of mods), plays Nazis down.

If you want to discuss about moderation/mod etc. plz continue or start a proper thread without any Nazis-comparisons.

[Roy]

2Roy

Once and for all, to you, and others who carefully read some pedia but can not read posts they are replying to

How about yourself? Did you respect my opinion?

Respect has to be earned. Nothing in your behavior so far works toward that target. But unlike you I do read and understand a statement before I post a reply.

Yes I'm dogmatic at this point: because Nazis did uncomparable terrible, horrible actions nothing ordinary should be compared with Nazis... and all, who uses a comparison with Nazis in a "ordinary" subject (like the behaviour of mods), plays Nazis down.

Once again, try to concentrate, perhaps you will get it this time: nothing here was compared to actual WWII nazis. The word was used to mean "intolerant". You do understand a word can have more then one meaning, do you?

[nevidimka]

I do read and understand a statement

Your replies prove it - you haven't any clue for the reasons of our reactions about Nazis-comparisons. Plz read this whole thread from the beginning - one more time. I give up.

[Roy]

To: nevidimka

The basic reason for your misguided reactions is your inability to understand even the simplest of statements. There might be other reasons but you will need to contact a prophessional psychiatrist to find them out.

Given the basic reason above, you will probably misunderstand that statement as an insult, but I guess there is really nothing I can do about that, again sighting the basic reason above.