thumbnails again

[nimbus]

I saw some nice screen shots about thumbnail view.
Before 6.05 I was also using thumbnail view with ieview plugin.
"6.05 supports thumbnail view" mean for me there is no need plugin. so removed ieview (even removed all plugins to check following problem ).
problem is; my tc cant show the thumbs.
my expect, when the push CTRL+Q, tc can be show thumbs in the dir with non requiring any plugin(s). am I wrong? or still need some plugins?
here is the screen shot;

Image: http://img188.exs.cx/img188/2672/0010vy.jpg

n1) thumbnails option selected on my windows explorers view menu
n2) and not selected "use classic style directories" in tools/directory options in windows explorer. (some words can be different from yours because of my windows language)
n3) the help file of tc is very poor on this release too.

thanks

[Leif]

Try Ctrl+Shift+F1

[icfu]

http://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?t=6055&highlight=thumbnails

Icfu

[nimbus]

Try Ctrl+Shift+F1

thanks leif. now it works.

and thanks for link ;

http://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?t=6055&highlight=thumbnails

but I had also read this link and not helpful for me.

if u have time leif, could u tell me what is different between CTRL+Q (on a directory) and CTRL+SHIFT+F1? CTRL+Q calls always some plugins?

[icfu]

I posted the link because when you read it COMPLETE you will understand what's going on.

CTRL+SHIFT+F1 calls the thumbnailsview, this is a new view mode in the SAME panel, just like full view, comments view, etc...

F3 calls the lister with either TC internal file display like text, hex view, etc..., an installed IrfanView or XnView or lister plugins.

CTRL-Q does the same as F3 but displays the lister in the opposite panel.

Icfu

[nimbus]

I posted the link because when you read it COMPLETE you will understand what's going on.Icfu

thanks for your offer that how must I read the link.
I think you understand the problem and which explanation can solve it on the link. thats good for you but not for me. because dir or file preview mode is still dont show the thumbs on me in spite of I done many explanations on the link.
I think it's good to know that sometimes explanations can be not good for every people as you supposed. I said this not for the explanation is bad. Users knowledge bases are on different level. if u are boring to answer the repeated questions, so dont answer.

[icfu]

Well, all the questions you had in your first postings are solved:

problem is; my tc cant show the thumbs.

This was answered by Leif so you already learned that before I posted the link.

my expect, when the push CTRL+Q, tc can be show thumbs in the dir with non requiring any plugin(s). am I wrong?

This question was answered by Leif and you can find line in the link I posted directly at the top:
djk: Do you have any fields checked in Configuration -> Thumbnails -> Loading Thumbnails ?

So, have you checked them?

or still need some plugins?

Answer is in djk's posting, too.

Leif posted the hotkeys you have to press to initiate the view and I gave you a link where you could learn how to activate the view with different possibilities. So, what's wrong with that?

If you still have any questions left just ask and give information what you have done to solve the problem till now so we know what information can be left out when explaining the new feature.

I answered the question you asked Leif, too, so why do you complain at all?

Icfu

[nimbus]

I answered the question you asked Leif, too, so why do you complain at all?

my only complain is the prejudice of "you didnt read it well what I said" as has been written with uppercase.

...when you read it COMPLETE you will understand what's going on.

lets back the problem ;

left side includes some images and a dir. this dir has some images in it too.
pressing CTRL+SHIFT+F1 makes thumbnails view for left side. all thumbs has been shown. there is no problem. and thanks again to leif.

select, unselect "get from lister plugin for" in configuration and restart tc changes nothing for view. thumbs still shown.

select, unselect "use explorer methot...", changes thumbnails shown or not. there are still "place holders" but no thumb in it. only file icon.

select, unselect " get from irfanview..." makes only some images are shown some are not. place holders are exist if images not shown

now, remember there was a dir on left side of tc that includes some images too. And while left side is on thumbnail view (SHIFT+CTRL+F1)(with no problem), I am bringing cursor to that "directory" and selecting preview mode (CTRL+Q). "MY EXPECT", tc will show the thumbs of images(or files) in this directory. But it shows like that;
Image: http://img64.exs.cx/img64/5036/998yn.jpg

if u have time leif, could u tell me what is different between CTRL+Q (on a directory) and CTRL+SHIFT+F1? CTRL+Q calls always some plugins?

I answered the question you asked Leif, too, so why do you complain at all?

I hope this time I could tell my problem more good.
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[Hacker]

"MY EXPECT", tc will show the thumbs of images(or files) in this directory.

No, TC does not do that, it only shows thumbnails in the current directory.

Doesn't IEView do this? (I don't know, I never tried IEView.)

HTH
Roman

[icfu]

The lister view that you can call with either F3 or Ctrl-Q has nothing to do with the thumbnailsview, it's something different! If you want to use Ctrl-Q on a folder you need to have the lister plugin IEView installed, nothing has changed here...
The new feature called thumbnails view is a new VIEW MODE like full, brief, etc. It's for the SAME panel and I used SAME in big letters because I wanted to express that it's not possible in the OPPOSITE panel. It was a hint for you, no offense, you see?

So, let's move on to the new thumbnails view mode:
There are three possibilities how the new thumbnails view mode can be called in TC and they have an internal order that's why you have to uncheck Explorer mode if you want to use a lister plugin for displaying all images. If you have them both checked the lister plugins will only be used for those images Explorer can't display. Explorer mode is preferred if both are checked. That's the reason why you didn't see a difference when you unchecked lister checkbox in thumbnails configuration... I think that IrfanView comes last in the order but I can't tell for sure as I haven't tested it so far. I am using Explorer view only because it can display the icons pretty fast here.

If you want to use a lister plugin for displaying the thumbs you need to install one of the lister plugins Imagine, SGviewer or jpegthumbs. The last one can only display jpg, though.

I hope it's clearer now.

Icfu

[Hacker]

There are three possibilities how the new thumbnails view mode can be called in TC and they have an internal order that's why you have to uncheck Explorer mode if you want to use a lister plugin for displaying all images. If you have them both checked the lister plugins will only be used for those images Explorer can't display.

Actually, it's the other way around:

19.11.04 Added: Changed order of thumbnail extraction options to order used by Total Commander

HTH
Roman

[icfu]

Well, I am rather confused now after that explanation.
Forgive me please.

Icfu

[nimbus]

The lister view that you can call with either F3 or Ctrl-Q has nothing to do with the thumbnailsview, it's something different! If you want to use Ctrl-Q on a folder you need to have the lister plugin IEView installed, nothing has changed here...
The new feature called thumbnails view is a new VIEW MODE like full, brief, etc. It's for the SAME panel and I used SAME in big letters because I wanted to express that it's not possible in the OPPOSITE panel. It was a hint for you, no offense, you see?

So, let's move on to the new thumbnails view mode:
There are three possibilities how the new thumbnails view mode can be called in TC and they have an internal order that's why you have to uncheck Explorer mode if you want to use a lister plugin for displaying all images. If you have them both checked the lister plugins will only be used for those images Explorer can't display. Explorer mode is preferred if both are checked. That's the reason why you didn't see a difference when you unchecked lister checkbox in thumbnails configuration... I think that IrfanView comes last in the order but I can't tell for sure as I haven't tested it so far. I am using Explorer view only because it can display the icons pretty fast here.

If you want to use a lister plugin for displaying the thumbs you need to install one of the lister plugins Imagine, SGviewer or jpegthumbs. The last one can only display jpg, though.

Icfu

that was the best of for this forum topic.
thanks

[Hacker]

icfu,

Well, I am rather confused now after that explanation.

Sorry. There was another order in the dialog during the betatest which has later been changed (see the history.txt entry) to reflect the actual priority of extraction, which is:
1. Lister plugins
2. Explorer method
3. Internal BMP
4. Irfanview/XnView

HTH
Roman

[icfu]

Ah, thx Hacker, what I meant was that I was confused because of MY own explanation for nimbus. You are of course right, I didn't know that there was a documentation for the internal order, must have missed it.

Anyway, now we have a nice reference thread for thumbnail newbies I think.

Icfu