OT 2Icfu:
I gave you guys (Flint as well) some clicks for the free Opera.
I'm just wondering what it is that you find better in Opera compared to Firefox (which I'm using).
[OT] Opera / Maxthon / Firefox, etc.
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I'm just wondering what it is that you find better in Firefox compared to Maxthon (which I'm using).szlori wrote:I'm just wondering what it is that you find better in Opera compared to Firefox (which I'm using).
Ok, ok, it's based on IE, but is very fast and... well, give it a try so I don't need to explain why I think it's the best.
Sorry for answering off-topic.
Last offtopic post, sorry. I must answer.
I will change Maxthon if:
I will change Maxthon if:
- I ever get infected by spyware or virus.
- Mozilla ever get as fast as Maxthon and get all features available in Maxthon (like simply collector, buttons instead tabs in No Skin mode, and similar interface).
/offtopic @szlori:
Opera has had all the features that people now think were invented by Firefox long before Firefox was born so I ask you in return: Why do you prefer Firefox?
Firefox is extremely sluggish on older computers, I don't have any desires to wait before Firefox has internally calculated that I have pressed a menu entry five seconds ago, I want it to open directly, Opera can do it.
Out of the box Firefox can do nothing, it's worse than Internet Explorer so I need to install 30 or 40 plugins before Firefox can compete with Opera, the problem is that afterwards Firefox is ten times as big as Opera and even more sluggish. It can not even automatically sort bookmarks alphabetically, the same crap as in Netscape 4.7 so I have to manually sort every single folder, this is a bad joke I think.
Then there is the Google-Firefox alliance which I don't like, Firefox starts to grow to the most ugly Open Source experiment ever, sooner or later people will recognize that Firefox is even worse than Internet Explorer because its Open Source developers are not as open-minded and "nice" as everyone thinks. The german Firefox user base has already been attacked by a modified ebay spying button, this is something I would expect from Microsoft but not from an Open Source product. The reaction to this little "mistake" was embarrassing.
Opera is always ahead in development: Mouse gestures, nicknames for fast bookmark access, panel bar, RSS reader, voice control, free customization of all menus, button bars, etc...
If Firefox would be as smartly coded as Opera I would definetely switch because I like programs extendable by plugins. It would be better if Firefox would be recoded from scratch instead of keeping old Netscape code.
/offtopic/
Icfu
Opera has had all the features that people now think were invented by Firefox long before Firefox was born so I ask you in return: Why do you prefer Firefox?
Firefox is extremely sluggish on older computers, I don't have any desires to wait before Firefox has internally calculated that I have pressed a menu entry five seconds ago, I want it to open directly, Opera can do it.
Out of the box Firefox can do nothing, it's worse than Internet Explorer so I need to install 30 or 40 plugins before Firefox can compete with Opera, the problem is that afterwards Firefox is ten times as big as Opera and even more sluggish. It can not even automatically sort bookmarks alphabetically, the same crap as in Netscape 4.7 so I have to manually sort every single folder, this is a bad joke I think.
Then there is the Google-Firefox alliance which I don't like, Firefox starts to grow to the most ugly Open Source experiment ever, sooner or later people will recognize that Firefox is even worse than Internet Explorer because its Open Source developers are not as open-minded and "nice" as everyone thinks. The german Firefox user base has already been attacked by a modified ebay spying button, this is something I would expect from Microsoft but not from an Open Source product. The reaction to this little "mistake" was embarrassing.
Opera is always ahead in development: Mouse gestures, nicknames for fast bookmark access, panel bar, RSS reader, voice control, free customization of all menus, button bars, etc...
If Firefox would be as smartly coded as Opera I would definetely switch because I like programs extendable by plugins. It would be better if Firefox would be recoded from scratch instead of keeping old Netscape code.
/offtopic/
Icfu
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i was hacker and i tell you that Firefox is just invisible by all Spyware,ActiveX, and more scripts..
im try all the browser and Firefox was the best..
the gecko engine in firefox will be the future of the other browsers..
To firefox have a lot of plugins and extensions that not have to any other browser.. and he have a special tabs not like Opera and Maxthon..
and FF using low ram..
Im recommend you to try it and you will love it..
1 Popup or file not entered to my pc..
Firefox - Because the internet is now clear,clean, safe, fast,and More enjoy to slide..!
im try all the browser and Firefox was the best..
the gecko engine in firefox will be the future of the other browsers..
To firefox have a lot of plugins and extensions that not have to any other browser.. and he have a special tabs not like Opera and Maxthon..
and FF using low ram..
Im recommend you to try it and you will love it..
1 Popup or file not entered to my pc..
Firefox - Because the internet is now clear,clean, safe, fast,and More enjoy to slide..!
Elad
If you were a hacker then I am the pope,
your posting is ironicly meant I hope, nope?
What about that, for example:
http://seclists.org/lists/bugtraq/2005/May/0157.html
Interested in the bug fixing status of the three major browsers? Look here.
Opera
Firefox
IE
Icfu
your posting is ironicly meant I hope, nope?
Firefox doesn't support ActiveX, just like Opera so this is no wonder. Spyware is a local component, just like installed viruses. If it is installed it can use Firefox just like every other browser for cummunication needs. The plugin interface is dangerous and it can be misused like ActiveX. If people press "OK" on malicious components the game is over.i tell you that Firefox is just invisible by all Spyware,ActiveX, and more scripts..
What about that, for example:
http://seclists.org/lists/bugtraq/2005/May/0157.html
You think Opera or Internet Explorer will switch to Gecko? Well, err, I doubt.the gecko engine in firefox will be the future of the other browsers..
Interested in the bug fixing status of the three major browsers? Look here.
Opera
Firefox
IE
Icfu
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This is not an argument or would you say that Windows Explorer is a better file manager because it is used by more people than Total Commander?
Why don't you answer the question? I am interested to hear about which character encodings are not supported by Opera and all I get from you is hot air.
Icfu
Why don't you answer the question? I am interested to hear about which character encodings are not supported by Opera and all I get from you is hot air.
Icfu
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2icfu
2Xtrician
In the past there were ZIP versions of Firefox. There are not released officially any longer.
I like these kind of distributions. Who knows if Opera releases plain archives of new Opera versions?
I'm quite sure this is wrong.Out of the box Firefox can do nothing
Operas executables and libaries are compressed using aspack. Is there an unpacked version?Firefox is ten times as big as Opera
I have a quite suspious entry in firefox context menu (not a plugin!) and it works fine.automatically sort bookmarks alphabetically
2Xtrician
That's wrong. Just take a closer look at the encoding menu.Hebrew encoding not support in Opera..
In the past there were ZIP versions of Firefox. There are not released officially any longer.
I like these kind of distributions. Who knows if Opera releases plain archives of new Opera versions?