TC bug: disappearing dirs' counted size

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icfu wrote:It is still a bug as it makes no sense to autoreread a directory when nothing has changed.
It works with all other sorting options without any problems so what's the point in rereading automatically only when sorting by size is activated?
That's why I said on my previos post that: "If the bug didn't occur after having the list first sorted I would have assumed that it was intentional."

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Ah, now I have understood that sentence, sometimes it's difficult to identify a subjunctive on first look. ;)
and your passion about Meta Commander
Already thinking about placing a warning in my signature about these mafia methods. :)

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ts4242 wrote: Confirmed!
in this case i have a new solution: before switching to another application do not forget to sort the dirs by name. :lol:
I consider it a bad joke.
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pdavit wrote:
That's why I said on my previos post that: "If the bug didn't occur after having the list first sorted I would have assumed that it was intentional."

I'm with you! (and your passion about Meta Commander ;) )
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icfu wrote:
before switching to another application do not forget to sort the dirs by name.
So true.... :mrgreen:

Well, I don't think that this needs 30 hours of work for ghisler so I hope he will fix the bug in the next release.

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This BUG has been around for so much time. For so many versions. Why hasn't it been fixed yet? It's the longest-living bug, that i've ever seen.
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I consider it a bad joke.
It's called sarcasm. ;)
Besides that it is very useful workaround till ghisler decides to fix the bug at least for those drives you haven't locked with "noreread".
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http://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?t=3679&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15#35834
This BUG has been around for so much time. For so many versions. Why hasn't it been fixed yet? It's the longest-living bug, that i've ever seen.
I am not aware of any other bug report so maybe you have posted the bug first? Or have you posted it already in the past?
Bugs that noone knows of will never be fixed or are considered features.
Now ghisler knows about the bug and will tell us his point of view, maybe...

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qs_raven wrote:This BUG has been around for so much time. For so many versions. Why hasn't it been fixed yet? It's the longest-living bug, that i've ever seen.
icfu wrote:Bugs that noone knows of will never be fixed or are considered features.
Now ghisler knows about the bug and will tell us his point of view, maybe...
To be sure that @ghisler knows about this bug you should report it to support@ghisler.com.

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icfu wrote:I am not aware of any other bug report so maybe you have posted the bug first? Or have you posted it already in the past?
Bugs that noone knows of will never be fixed or are considered features.
Now ghisler knows about the bug and will tell us his point of view, maybe...

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Noone knows of? I think, that the usage that i described (call it "let's see which dirs take the most disk space") is very common and therefore must have been noticed before.

Ghisler knows? Who told him?

"are considered features"?. If something is useless and annoying then how could it be a feature ?

What i am trying to say is that the whole thing seems like a huge plot ;)
A plot designed by the makers of {Total "Buggy improvisation" Commander} to spread chaos among humanity.
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Noone knows of? I think, that the usage that i described (call it "let's see which dirs take the most disk space") is very common and therefore must have been noticed before.
Could you be so kind and read the whole thread? Why do you think I and other helpers take the time to post here?
I have confirmed the bug, I have supported your opinion that this is indeed a bug, what else do you want from me?

I have no interest in discussing stupid wordsplitting.
If you know that bug since 4.x why have you waited for years till you decided to post the bug report here? I have never noticed the bug because I have other things to do than counting directory sizes and switching tasks the whole time.
Ghisler knows? Who told him?
Ghisler reads the forum.
"are considered features"?. If something is useless and annoying then how could it be a feature ?
It's not a bug just because you or someone else is annoyed by something. A bug can be considered a feature by someone else, we have had such occasions in the past, you can be sure that I know what I am talking about.

Anyway, you know what to do to fix the bug completely, so what are you waiting for? Christmas?

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2icfu
:) Hello Jeff !
Christmas?
:D Merry X-mas !

:oops: Sorry, isn't the date !
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:roll:  Well, well, finally, I guess that this «horrible bug» was not noticed sooner because the most users set directories always sorted by name, that is the handiest display in my opinion.
Now, like you said, we have to wait for the Ch. Ghisler's point of view… perhaps.

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Clo wrote:2MacQ
:) Hello !
This also happens if you want to see the properties (right click -> properties) of the selected and ordered by size directories
• Right, but it's the same than when switching to another program : if you use <space-bar> to display the dir-sizes, the sizes stay.

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But only if you don't sort by size. If you sort by size, they disappear.
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But only if you don't sort by size. If you sort by size, they disappear.
Here they stay when using space and sorting by size, just like Clo said.
Noreread is NOT set!

Ghisler, share your wisdom please. :)

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Actually it's not a bug, it's the normal refresh function when TC is reactivated: When you switch from another program to Total Commander, the dirs in the two panels are re-read. However, the panels are only refreshed if anything in these dirs has changed. This is determined via a checksum function. So if some other program has modified the dir, e.g. saved a file in that dir, then TC has to refresh the display. Since the dir sizes cannot be reliably copied from the old dir listing to the new one, they are left out.
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ghisler(Author) wrote:Actually it's not a bug, it's the normal refresh function...
This can not be true. If you do not do anythoing but change the focus and come back to TC the count of dirs disappears. But only when you sort by size. If you sort by name or date you can switch and the dir count is still displayed.

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Sheepdog wrote: This can not be true. If you do not do anythoing but change the focus and come back to TC the count of dirs disappears. But only when you sort by size. If you sort by name or date you can switch and the dir count is still displayed.

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CORRECT, Sheepdog.
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