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:) Hello !
…Maybe I'll add this option, I'll email you. …
• I didn't receive any mail yet, but meanwhile I completed a set of experimental icons available HERE
- There are two groups : with and without a solid background.
- I added the BMP-sources too, all having a white BG.
- BTW : There is still an issue to view icons with transparency in UV itself, none setting is quite satisfactory…
- For the anecdote : After a 8-year row, XnView now loads all icons “as” 32 BPP to get a transparency at display,
and not even in all view modes…

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I don't plan "icon library" feature for the next version. Maybe for the V 2.6.
BTW : There is still an issue to view icons with transparency in UV itself…
Your icon 48x48 with transparency displayed ok here (but only when "Show image trsansparency" is off)
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Black is eaten

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:) Hello !

• There are not libraries, only *.ico because indeed it's impossible to know which is the right order to use…
- Moreover, the usual tools make 16-bits ICLs, that doesn't work under Vista, except with a special Vista patch…
- I could make 32-bit ICLs, though, using a trick, but not without the right order
(and planning all new future added items at the end…).
Your icon 48x48 with transparency displayed ok here (but only when "Show image transparency" is off)
• Please, test the 24² icons I drew (link above), you'll see that in those containing “natural” black in the motives,
the black is considered as the transparency and “eaten”, whatever setting you are using.
- You can compare with the set having a solid BG (among others, it's one reason for which I made it).

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There are not libraries, only *.ico
I see
Moreover, the usual tools make 16-bits ICLs
I know it.
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Thumb nails in the navigation pane…

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:) Hello Alexeï !

• I tested the last “Pro” version about the Thumb nails view,
and I noticed some hitches that you can see on THIS IMAGE MONTAGE :

• The #1. image shows the thumbnail in U.V. for a 24² - 24 BPP icon having a solid background (RGB=255-255-230),
that real BG is shown as the #3. image.
- This icon is displayed as blown up to 48², that's unexpected and rather ugly…
- Moreover, the BG is filled with the default selection colour (a bit changed, because probably the smoothing feature of Win…), that is also unexpected and also ugly. The empty remaining space is not filled with the selection colour,
only the frame is.
• The #2. image is the real icon as displayed in the normal UV window, while the “Transparency” option is «Off».

• The #4. image is the same icon while the “Transparency” option is «On».
- Despite that icon does not contain any transparency datum,
it's coloured solid original BG is considered as the transparency colour.
- That causes a halation around the motif, since indeed the original (hand-made) anti-aliasing
is not planned for that BG-colour (which is the BG of the normal UV window here).
- The “Magenta” frames I added are not relevant, they indicate the occupied area only.
- Let's notice too that the “Eaten black” phenomenon is not visible here, simply because this icon doesn't contain pure black “0 0 0”…

• The #5. image is the same icon as a thumb nail in a TC panel. Here, it's shown as its real size,
and its BG is not filled with the selection colour, while the remaining empty space is, that seems logical IMHO…
- Because using the “Imagine” plug-in, we have a minor defect about the white BG, not a big deal.

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Send me that icon, please.
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:) It's included in the package, link in my posting here at the page-top…

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Confirmed, some is wrong with new image control.

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Despite that icon does not contain any transparency datum,
it's coloured solid original BG is considered as the transparency colour.
Should be fixed

Issue with thumbnails: I'll report it to thumbnails library author.
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Some suggestions for the Navigation panel:

If I chose Details view then UV does not remember neither which columns that are chosen nor the width of the columns - not even within the same session. If I for example discard the Type column then it pops up again just by changing to a different directory.

Would it also be possible to make the (More...) Column settings dialog ( http://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/uvcolumns.png ) translatable? - Or could the standard Explorer dialog ( http://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/iecolumns.png ) which is already localized be called in stead?
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Would it also be possible to make the (More...) Column settings dialog .. translatable?
Should be localizable now. I forgot about this dialog, thanks.
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Beta updated.
Navigation panel remembers its column widths / positions.
Transparency of icons fixed.
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What exactly does 785="LiveUpdate" imply?
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petermad wrote:What exactly does 785="LiveUpdate" imply?
When checked in Columns Settings dialog, list will be updated immediately on checkboxes checking...
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list will be updated immediately on checkboxes checking.
Aha, I see it now - thanks :-)
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New tests

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:) Hello Alexeï !

• I tested the same set of icons 24² with the updated beta, it's not quite OK yet,
like it's showed on that NEW MONTAGE :

- #8 is the «Plain text» icon with a transparent BG that you can find in the package. The transparency option is ON.
The natural “black” is eaten totally.

- #9 is the same having a solid BG, displayed in XnView.
Same result in U.V. only when the transparency option is turned OFF.

- #10 is the same with a transparent BG displayed in XnView (loaded “as” 32 BPP). The natural black is displayed…
-------------------
- #11 shows the «Fit window to image» icon (having a solid BG) in U.V, while the transparency option is ON.
¤ Weirdly, for that one the BG is displayed like it should, but the red arrows pointing to each corner
are eaten and shown as transparent (the light blue of the U.V. window). :?

#12 is the same than above in XnView, and also while the transparency option is turned OFF in U.V., looking as normal.

• Else : So often, while I browse such folders of icons, I have an inopportune message Unknown image format despite closing it I can display the fake culprit. It occurs randomly for any icon in the set, and as well from the thumb nails view, as for the simple view, the navigation panel being hidden.

• Just to complete my answer via e-mail about the thumb nails : If I display the BMP-sources of these icons as thumb nails,
they are shown alright with their real size, so : 24² !

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