Using a - in filenames

[Maxwish]

when using a '-' sign in front of a filename doesn't effect the way it is listed.

example:

a.zip
b.zip
c.zip

is listed the same if name b.zip is changed to -b.zip:

a.zip
-b.zip
c.zip

this is not the case with other signs as '+' or '_'. In this case the file will all be listed first:

+b.zip
a.zip
c.zip

Is there any special reason for why "-" is not sorted ?

[Tsunulukai]

I tried to reproduce it without any success...
Tcmd 5.51 - WinXP Pro SP1

the "-" gets sorted as other chars here...

[Maxwish]

I'm using win2k + sp4.
Strange, would not think this was OS dependant.

Personaly I thought this was a 'feature'. It's quite handy when wanting to mark a certain directory (example: a directory that has been backed up already) whilst still keeping it listed in the original way...

[j.x]

I'm using win2k + sp4.
Strange, would not think this was OS dependant.

I'm using XP Pro, Swedish version and TC 5.51. In my box, -b.zip also stays between a.zip and c.zip as in your W2k box. Maybe it's the language dependant sorting methods?

[Hacker]

Any special SortUpper setting in wincmd.ini?

Roman

[jdmarch]

Yes, I've noticed the same thing as Maxwish. Running W2K SP4. I assumed it was a "feature" but find it annoying.

[djk]

XP Pro PL (Polish) - the same as at Maxwish' computer.

[Maxwish]

just checked some older versions:
Using Wincmd v3.03 and less: sorts the '-filename' at the top.
using Wincmd v3.53 and higher: the '-filename' stays in the same place.

So, who wants to check the v3.5x history.txt to find out if it's a feature
(the text files is about 350 lines....)

[norfie]

TCmd V5.51a, W2k same like Maxwish

BTW: MS Explorer same like TCmd.

[Maxwish]

Any special SortUpper setting in wincmd.ini?

the penny has fallen:
by adding SortUpper=1 to wincmd.ini changes this.

looking in history.txt of v3.50:

03.10.97 Added: switch SortUpper=1 causes underscores to be sorted at the END of the file list

Guess this effects the minus (-) sorting also ???

[djk]

2Maxwish
Good job
BTW: http://www.ghisler.com/history.txt doesn't seem to be full

[Maxwish]

Here's my test directory with 5 files: a.txt to e.txt
SortUpper=0

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_d.txt   (underscore listed at top : default sorting)
+b.txt   ('plus ' before 'letters')
a.txt
-c.txt   ('minus' has no effect) !!!
e.txt

SortUpper=1

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+b.txt   ('plus ' before 'letters')
-c.txt   ('minus' now before 'letters') !!!
a.txt
e.txt
_d.txt   (underscore listed at bottom : by ini setting)

Still a bit strange, if you ask me....

2DJK
complete history:
http://clubtotal.free.fr/tc_tools/tctxt_full_history.zip

[djk]

2Maxwish
Ok, I know there is everything on you page (I'd downloaded it form your old site but I've forgotten about it)

[ghisler(Author)]

OK, to clear the confusion:
With SortUpper=1, Total Commander converts the names to uppercase, and then compares them character by character.

With SortUpper=0, Total Commander calls the string compare function of the operating system, to get the exact same sort order as in Explorer. This sort order is depending on national character sorting, e.g. to handle accents.