AltGr not working in quicksearch/quickfilter

[za222]

It seems AltGr isn't working in quickfilter.
If i want to search for "[" for example (AltGr-8 on german keyboard) i only get "8" as a result.

Is there a reason for this limitation or is it a bug?

A working AltGr would be essential if you want to use something like that google like quicksearch in regex mode, where you need "\" (AltGr-ß)

[petermad]

It works as long as you don't have any file that starts with 8 in the directory.

See: http://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?p=174904#174904

[karlchen]

Hi, za222.

I guess this is a misunderstanding. You will be able to enter characters like [ or ] or } or { provided the current folder holds filenames which use such characters.
The quick search edit box will reject any character which is not used in the current file panel by any filename.
You cannot filter using an unused character.

Plus what petermad wrote is true, too.
So in case there a matching files having the characters 8, 9, 7, 0 (see the special characters above), T.C. seems to ignore the modifier key AltGr.

Kind regards,
Karl

[petermad]

2karlchen

Please read http://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?p=174904#174904 carefully.

If you have files that starts with the same letters as the AltGr modified letter for example e and €, then TC ignores the AltGr press when you search for €, and finds e in stead.

I used € and e as an example because it is also used on German keyboards.

To reproduce:
1. make two files called e and € in an empty dir.
2. quicksearch for € by typing AltGr+e in the search field - not possible!

So your experience is totally unrelated to the AltGr key.

Perhaps not

[karlchen]

Hi, Peter.

Having read your previous post I had to correct mine.

Cheers,
Karl

[za222]

It has nothing to do with the files in the panel (i have files that contain "[" and i am using wildcards in the beginning anyway, like "*asdf*[").

I narrowed the problem down:

If I select ALT+Letter or CTRL+ALT+Letter in the options, AltGr does NOT work at all!
If I select Letter only it does work.

So it's a problem in the implementation.

[petermad]

If I select ALT+Letter or CTRL+ALT+Letter in the options, AltGr does NOT work at all!

Note quite correct - but it is correct that you can't open the search dialog with an AltGr letter, but once you got it opened (with fx Alt+* or Ctrl+Alt+*) you can use AltGr letters provided the ordinary letter on the key doesn't match too.

On the other hand when using the "Letter+search dialog" option, AltGr letters can be entered whithout problems.

[za222]

On the other hand when using the "Letter+search dialog" option, AltGr letters can be entered whithout problems.

Yeah it's weird.
I think this needs some general rework of the AltGr support.

[ghisler(Author)]

So I was right that you had Ctrl+Alt+Letters as search option (see other thread - why are there two anyway?).

Windows sends the same message for Ctrl+Alt+Letters and AltGr+Letters, that's why the two cannot be distinguished.

[za222]

OK, i understand why it can't work as first character.
But wouldn't it be possible that as soon as the search window appears, every hotkey is checked exactly the way it's being sent?

So that in this state
CTRL-ALT-8 is really meant to do [
and not
CTRL-ALT (activate search) + 8

[ghisler(Author)]

The idea why Ctrl+Alt is still checked is that the user may keep pressing AltGr while quick search is already open...

[za222]

Maybe that could be realized with an ini-setting for advanced users?

Actually this behaviour is a bit irritating anway:
Since now there is also the option to use CTRL-S to open the filter in 7.5 it makes no sense to check if CTRL+ALT is still pressed.

[petermad]

2ghisler(Author)

Windows sends the same message for Ctrl+Alt+Letters and AltGr+Letters, that's why the two cannot be distinguished.

But Why does that inflict when one is using the Alt+letters option, which behaves the same way as Ctrl+Alt+letter option ?

[za222]

Because it checks for pressed ALT in that case
and pressing CTRL_ALT_8 would then only be interpreted as CTRL_8 which still is 8

[petermad]

Because it checks for pressed ALT in that case

Of course - I mean why does TC check for only Alt and not for Ctrl+Alt