Deleting going slow

[Gaigo]

I have previously written about my TC behaving very slow. Now the problem has gotten a new side.
When I delete TC is doing it very slow. The dialog with cancel and background buttons appears, but none of the buttons react. If I open Explorer the file appears deleted, but TC is not responding before after a few minutes.
Right now I'm deleting 1500 files and 50% is done after five minutes! Explorer deletes the same amount in seconds.

[Clo]

I have previously written about my TC behaving very slow. Now the problem has gotten a new side.
When I delete TC is doing it very slow. The dialog with cancel and background buttons appears, but none of the buttons react. If I open Explorer the file appears deleted, but TC is not responding before after a few minutes.
Right now I'm deleting 1500 files and 50% is done after five minutes! Explorer deletes the same amount in seconds.

Hi!
¤ I read again the 1st. topic and replies...
A simple question: are these files to delete in the same HD than TC?
Or else, do you delete them through a local network?
- I noticed some very slow operations when made via a local network...
(Topic "Who had worse?" in this forum: http://ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?t=2753 )
However, except the described case, the TC behaviour is normal at home.
Did you try to uninstall / reinstall the whole TC (in another HD, if you have...)
Glad to hear more about this,
best regards,
friendly,
Clo

[Gaigo]

It was on the same HD. And I have also tried to uninstall TC and installing it again.
I think the next step is to format the computer and install everything all over, maybe it would help all over on the performance. Or even better: my employer gives me a new computer

[Clo]

It was on the same HD. And I have also tried to uninstall TC and installing it again.
I think the next step is to format the computer and install everything all over, maybe it would help all over on the performance. Or even better: my employer gives me a new computer

Hello!
Fine! It should be the best solution!
An ultimate solution I thought to would be to create a 10-MB RamDrive -if there is a sufficient amount of RAM...-, then to load TC at the boot-time into this Ram-disk - copying it from the HD...
¤ I used this trick to load <command.com> in old PCs, in order to speed-up them a bit...
The snag is that Win98 removes the changes in <autoexec.bat> or / and / <config.sys>... Could be got round using a boot-diskette.
Not very handy!
Glad to hear news from you,
friendly,
Claude
Clo

[Lefteous]

2Gaigo

Right now I'm deleting 1500 files and 50% is done after five minutes! Explorer deletes the same amount in seconds.

If anything works fine in Explorer but not in Commander the reason in most cases is a virus scanner. Try to deactivate your virus scanner if you have one installed.

[Clo]

2Lefteous
Hello Lefteous!
Gaigo attempted this already...

It's he reason for which I thought to the old RamDrive trick…
What do you think about a malicious file (worm-like, but not detected by AV) blocking some processes?
(Maybe a stupid idea, but I've not any other…)
Best regards,
Clo

[Lefteous]

2Clo

Gaigo attempted this already...

How should I know? If he metioned this in another thread it's his fault to open a new thread and getting the same answers again.

What do you think about a malicious file (worm-like, but not detected by AV) blocking some processes?

What about an undetected virus scanner? A virus scanner is like a worm.

[Clo]

2Lefteous

How should I know? If he metioned this in another thread it's his fault to open a new thread and getting the same answers again.

Sorry, the link I found didn't work... You could find the first topic from the Gaigo's profile...

What about an undetected virus scanner? A virus scanner is like a worm.

Right!
Personally, I never use a permanent AV scanning, only the old good free F-Prot under... Dos!
Regards
Clo

[karlchen]

@Lefteous and Clo
Although it does not help find a solution to the original issue (TC is working slowly), I cannot help commenting on two things your wrote:

What about an undetected virus scanner? A virus scanner is like a worm.

Sorry, this is plain nonsense.

Personally, I never use a permanent AV scanning, only the old good free F-Prot under... Dos!

This is pretty careless and stupid.

On our company mail servers, our resident AV scanners catch malware everyday which was sent out unknowlingly by people who do not like and/or do not care to run up-to-date resident AV-software on their machines.

Back to TC performance issues and AV-software:
I work with TC on a number of different machines, all running TC and resident AV-software (Norton, Kaspersky). And so far I never experienced any trouble with TC that was caused by the AV-software.
I simply cannot understand that even people who seem to have a substantial knowledge and understanding of TC in particular and computer software in general tend to hold AV-software responsible for all performance issues that users experience with TC.

Please do not take my comment on a personal basis, but I am afraid you are putting people on the wrong track by arguing against AV-software.

Kind regards,
Karl

[Lefteous]

an den wurm:

Well, look at your avatar. It seems to me that you are a virus scanner.

[karlchen]

@Lefteous
Not quite right, I am an Internet Worm, but no AV-software can catch me.
Kind regards,
The Worm aka Karl

[Clo]

2karlchen

This is pretty careless and stupid.

Hello Karl!
¤ My way to track viruses isn't as so stupid as you think...
For almost six years, I caught ONE worm - not very naughty-, which has been detected alright by F-Prot!
To follow some basic precautions can be enough - I use my PCs at home only, I'm retired-
* I don't visit "nasty" Web pages...
* I use a mailer which doesn't launch by itself any attached file...
* More: now, I suscribed to an AV-mail Service at my IP...
* I go n... times a day to sort the mails in my mail-box at my IP's, and delete there all suspicious mails (some spams carry embedded viruses too now!)
* I don't click on any unknown attached file, when the mails are transfered; even if I know the sender, I ask for a confirmation to him(her).
* I no longer browse any PCs-magazine CD...
* I enable the "Clear IE cache when closing" (or so, my Windows is in French)
¤ F-Prot is updated almost each day, I follow these updates, and run it often.
Once, my son attempted to install N-AV (under Win 98 SE)
It caused a huge mess in the machine, which became unserviceable.
¤ I'd big difficulties to uninstall it, clean the register and so on...
I imagine that office-usings need a secure running, but the original case posted here needs to think to any cause and solution, even the least likely...

Moreover - without any toadyism - I think that Lefteous is a very experienced user, so I take care of his opinion.

Unfortunately, such speaches don't solve this Gaigo's slowing-down problem...
Best regards,
Ever friendly,
Clo

[karlchen]

@Clo
Sorry for getting offtopic by trying to "teach" about the need to run AV-software.
I wonder though how many computer users care to take all the manual steps that you, Clo, take to keep malware away from their computers.

Ok, back to Gaigo's problem:
I assume it would be worth while knowing what kind of computer he uses and which OS, because talking to a colleague I learnt that on poorly equipped old machines, i.e. anything below Pentium 3 with 256 MB of RAM, there may be a performance issue with TC and some AV-software, e.g. current Norton version, some KAV versions and maybe some others as well.
(Looks like quite a few programmers do not take into account that not all people use P4 with 3GHz and 1GB of RAM. )

So @Gaigo
Could you, please, give us some information on
+ your computer equipment (processor, processor speed, RAM)
+ your OS

Maybe these details will help determine the cause of your performance issue.

Kind regards,
Karl

[Clo]

2karlchen

Hello again!

@Clo
Sorry for getting offtopic by trying to "teach" about the need to run AV-software.
I wonder though how many computer users care to take all the manual steps that you, Clo, take to keep malware away from their computers.

¤ I've free time! I began to (re)use computers with a 386 SX - HD 40 MB (!) Win 3.1…So, a "light" AV like F-Prot was only convenient... Since it has been alright updated along years, I continue to use it, and that works… for free!
* Please, don't think that it's inferior to the most AV scanners, there are very good AV analysts @ this very friendly firm. They have too a Win scanner version, but not free of charge…
<HUMOUR>
I'm astonished that a lot of "Keyboard-Knights" who post intensively here don't use the F-Prot Dos!
They could have a surfeit of parameters, keyboard-shortcuts and all the caboodle to type! The full happiness!
</HUMOUR>
www.f-prot.com None commission for me!

Ok, back to Gaigo's problem:
I assume it would be worth while knowing what kind of computer he uses and which OS, because talking to a colleague I learnt that on poorly equipped old machines, i.e. anything below Pentium 3 with 256 MB of RAM, there may be a performance issue with TC and some AV-software, e.g. current Norton version, some KAV versions and maybe some others as well.
(Looks like quite a few programmers do not take into account that not all people use P4 with 3GHz and 1GB of RAM. )

Yes, you're right on this point. He might give us the main informations about hard/soft/wares he uses.
However, my usual "donkey" PC, with which I work the most is only a P II @ 350 MHz - SD-Ram 320 MB - Win 98 SE (Bd-2222 A). TC works globally fine about speed, except (randomly) the case quoted above in a reply.
I've too a 2-CPU Athlon 2000+ DD-RAM 1 GB - XP-Pro, but I don't use it a lot, because it's located so far in the house at another floor. Moreover, I don't like XP very well
¤ And also an "oldie" PI 166 MMX, only when needed for some tests.
¤ And my son's laptop when at home (very often!): P IV…
Now, just wait and see about the Gaigo's problem.
Note: I don't write this online, the edit field is pretty bad. I found a trick. Available from that forum; riddle: where is it?
Kind regards,
Claude
Clo

[Gaigo]

So @Gaigo
Could you, please, give us some information on
+ your computer equipment (processor, processor speed, RAM)
+ your OS

I use Windows XP, on a Pentium III 1GHz, 512 MB of RAM.