Move/copy without waiting, algorithm of independence

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Move/copy without waiting, algorithm of independence

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If I move files from one directory to another directory it remains sometimes 10 or more minutes. So I go to drink cofee or do something similiar. ... After that I go back to my computer .. and what I see .. my computer is staying and waiting with stupid question For example "This file is hidden .. can I move it Yes/No ?" ... So I click on Yes ... and copy is continuing ...
What is wrong ?

Why program doesnt move all files which were moveable in directory ? ...
Is it dificult to change algorithm from "Do until get error" to "Do everythink what You can do, and errors put at the end of work" .. I think lot of algorithms could be better and more independent.


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Drag & Drop is OK...

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2lovec
:D Hello!

¤ In first, please always give more indications, about the OS, the TC version, your hardware, the access right you have (if users' accounts in a LAN or so); this is a general tip...

• I just tested under Win 98 SE, using Drag & Drop +Shift (or Alt) that works fine, without any message...
• Go to Configuration >>> Options >>> Miscellaneous >>> Uncked the box: "Overwriting/Deleting hidden/Sysytem files"...
:wink: Then, please test again...

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lovec probably wants to be asked about hidden files so he doesn't want to change the settings. He probably would like to other files were copied during the questions in background. In the other words, let's say we have 100 files to move, TC starts copying but file number 25 is hidden so TC stops operation and ask if we want to move it too, it starts working again after our answer. lovec would like it ask the question but it moved the rest of the files in backround and wait only with the hidden files(file no 25 and others) for our decision.
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Helllo,
¤ You are right if he wants to keep that(these) hidden file(s) in the source dir.
• A new command like: cm_MoveAllButHidden might be useful...
• But if there is no matter to move (it) them, he may simply change the options...
:?: Maybe the hidden file is only a <descript.ion> comment file!
¤ I'ld prefer these comment-file as not-hidden... At home, I change the attribute into "Archive", that works the same, and no longer bothers me.
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A new command like: cm_MoveAllButHidden might be useful...
There is already an easy way to ignore hidden while moving. Create a userdefined filter with the hidden attribute unchecked. Now choose the created filter in the rename/move dialog.
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Fiiiha, dalsi FEIkar... :)

I personally agree with Lovec, why not have an option in the Options of the Copy dialog to "skip" all "errors" and let the users decide what to do about them at the end of the copy?

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my computer is staying and waiting with stupid question "This file is hidden .. can I move it Yes/No ?" ... So I click on Yes ... and copy is continuing ...
What is wrong ?
The copy dialog has an option button.
There you can set your options just for the current copy/move job.

With the last option you can select to overwrite hidden files too.
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stupid question "This file is hidden .. can I move it Yes/No ?" ... So I click on Yes ... and copy is continuing ...
I think this case can be solved with the Options button on the copy dialog:
"Overvrite/Delete readonly/hidden/system"
or in the Main Options/Misc/Get confirmation before...
I dont get any question on move/copy, and I have plenty of hidden and read only files.
I switched to Linux, bye and thanks for all the fish!
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lol you were faster ;-)
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sqa_wizard, SanskritFritz,
But the problem is, what if I don't want to overwrite all or skip all but only specific ones?

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But the problem is, what if I don't want to overwrite all or skip all but only specific ones?
You can use a filter (as mentioned above) and combine the filter with the skip/overwrite all option. It's a little tricky, but it works fine.
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But the problem is, what if I don't want to overwrite all or skip all but only specific ones?
Yeah that's why I said "this case"
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SanskritFritz,
Yeah that's why I said "this case"
I think lovec only gave us an example of a confirmation dialog box, not asking, "How do I overwrite all hidden files automatically?", but that's just IMHO.

Lefteous,
Well, you cannot use such a filter for cases like a locked file in which case the usual retry/ignore/cancel dialog box appears.

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hidden was only example

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I think not only hidden files .. I think why not to do all work what it can do .. so skiping error messages ... which are very offen non important for next work .. copying files is only one example .. moving files .. lot of PCs work is very offen stoped by error message which has nothink to do with next work ... Its like in real world .. people are offen waiting for their bos to get resolution if they get problem ... and stay on dead point ..., i think its better to do all what I can do .. and not wait ... may be bos will come and will click on that button ... but its better to have finished another work which I can do without bos ... same idea can be used for compiling linux kernel :o) ...

Next step is ... its very likelihood that I can get very offen the same answer, for example, when I copy files and error message is "I cannot move Thumbs.ini ..." if error messages are collected as last step and there is lot of same errors its very probably that I want to give for all error messages the same answer ... (Yes of course .. i hear ... you say that there is something similiar :o) .. But wait for even ... Why not to get more competenties to your pc and keep him use my most offen answer ...
If computer make some wrong resolution its not problem to recover file from trash ... but as I say .. If I didnt need one think three years, its better to put it into thrash :o)...

Bye bye :D
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OR send error messages to a log file...and continue with next operation.

This way it is possible to send a long work... and to be going to take a beer with the friends.

It's very annoying to return after a long time, and discover that it has been stopped because of a small and silly file. (Usually the second o third in the list).

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