[7.x..8.5b14, WinXP..Win8.1] Bug with MIDI in Lister

siealex · Post by *siealex » 2014-01-19, 21:36 UTC

Try to open the standard Windows file c:\windows\media\flourish.mid with F3 (without plugins) and with any other media player. Lister does not play first 5..20 MIDI events in the file. This happens with many files, sometimes lister even misses instrument change events.
PS. It's a very old bug, it was present in all 7.x versions, maybe even on 6.x, but only on Windows XP and higher (I can't reproduce it on a vmware with Windows 98 SE).

Sir_SiLvA · Post by *Sir_SiLvA » 2014-01-20, 00:16 UTC

nope cant confrim this

please try running your tc with a clean/empty ini file.

ie with tc.exe /i=empty.ini

Post by *ghisler(Author) » 2014-01-20, 15:43 UTC

Not confirmed either. Maybe it's loaded into a Lister plugin?

Post by *petermad » 2014-01-20, 22:26 UTC

I cannot confirm this either - testet with TC 8.50b15 32bit and 64bit under Windows XP, Windows 7 and Windows 8.1.

The only thing I noticed is that starting playback takes much longer time without plugin than it does with Mmedia plugin.

Sir_SiLvA · Post by *Sir_SiLvA » 2014-01-21, 00:19 UTC

petermad wrote:The only thing I noticed is that starting playback takes much longer time without plugin than it does with Mmedia plugin.

Nope starts instantly open opening here. your pc to old?

Post by *petermad » 2014-01-21, 07:10 UTC

your pc to old

I actually experienced it on 3 different PC's - the newest one is only 1 year old - but not a racehorse though.

MarcinW · Post by *MarcinW » 2014-01-21, 09:22 UTC

I can't reproduce the problem with Windows 2000 and flourish.mid from Windows XP.

Post by *ghisler(Author) » 2014-01-21, 10:20 UTC

You may have different MIDI decoders for Video for Windows (used by Lister) and the newer DirectX/DirectShow filters used by plugins like MMedia. The multimedia functions in lister are very old (1999), and it would probably be a good idea to switch them to DirectShow sometimes.

j7n · Post by *j7n » 2014-02-25, 12:57 UTC

I can sort-of reproduce this problem under Windows XP. It occurs in both IrfanView and Total Commander, which use the same player. I guess the old function does no longer work optimally under new Windows.

The player takes time to start up. It may be that it is loading the synthesizer samples, which would reside in main memory or on the sound card already in older setups.

But in my case, using the S-YXG50, all events are played, patches are set up, except the sound is not output at the very start. It is partially the fault of this MIDI file which lacks a silent setup measure to account for slowly responding systems, for either software or hardware limitations.

Microsoft has already obsoleted DirectMusic, before anybody really started using it...