Attribute "archive" not set for files inside when folders are moved/renamed

[krzysiobal]

No idea if this is fixed/solved in new TC, but for 7.55 i don't see a solution:
The attribute "archive" is useful for backup tools to determine if the file was changed (or created) since last backup, so that it will be included in the next differential backup and then cleared by the backup tool.

When you rename/move/copy single or multiple files in TC, this attribute is correctly set for the new files. But when you move (or rename) a folder, "archive" attribute is not set for all files inside it and so when a backup will be done, this "new old folder" folder will not be included in the backup.

[Horst.Epp]

You registered today to report problems for version 7.55, what a joke.
No other file manager not even Windows Explorer does set the archive attribute in your case.
Your account will be watched, be warned.

[petermad]

2krzysiobal
If you move folders between drives or partitions, then the archive attribute is set for all files in that folder. If you move folders/files within the same drive/partition, then the archive atrtributes are left untouched. This is the same in Windows Explorer, and has always been like that.

[umbra]

... If you move folders/files within the same drive/partition, then the archive atrtributes are left untouched. ...

A small correction: When moving only files themselves, the attribute is set, both in TC, Explorer and CMD. But yes, when moving whole folders, it's left untouched. TC just follows the norm here.

2Horst.Epp
Bad day? Also, you might be surprised how many people out there use TC 7.55 and don't even think about updating it. Because it works just fine for them.

[krzysiobal]

You registered today to report problems for version 7.55, what a joke.

I am not doing updates just for the sake of update, if it suits all my needs. I searched forum for similar topic and did not found any so thought the newest version will share the same bug/feature.

I registered today because you can't post without registration. And this today started to drive me crazy.

Your account will be watched, be warned.

No worries, as fast as I get satysfying answer I will delete my account.

2krzysiobal
If you move folders between drives or partitions, then the archive attribute is set for all files in that folder. If you move folders/files within the same drive/partition, then the archive atrtributes are left untouched. This is the same in Windows Explorer, and has always been like that.

First, this is not true - if you move folder in Windows explorer (Win XP, no idea how newest behaves), all moved files get the archive attribute set, even if you do it on the same partition.

Second, also not true - if you move a single or multiple files file using TC, but not the full folders, they all get archive attribute set. Weird inconsistency.

[umbra]

First, this is not true - if you move folder in Windows explorer (Win XP, no idea how newest behaves), all moved files get the archive attribute set, even if you do it on the same partition.

I just tried it on my Win10 and the attribute is not set when moving a folder. Who knows, maybe something really changed.

[krzysiobal]

Lol, I found a workaround: if you cut the folder in TC (ctr+shift+x) and then paste it (ctrl+shift+v) in different location, all files inside get its archive attribute set on.

Tested then on Windows 7 and it behaves like you described. Looks like they changed the behaviour between XP and 7.

[Dalai]

I just tested it on WinXP and I don't get any difference between TC (8.52a) and Explorer. Moving a directory within the same volume/partition, the archive attribute is not added to the files inside, but when moving the same directory from one volume/partition to another, the attribute gets set.

I suggest to consider testing a newer TC version to see if it fits your needs and bugs are fixed.

Regards
Dalai

[petermad]

2umbra

A small correction: When moving only files themselves, the attribute is set, both in TC

Sorry - I forgot that I have the SetArchiveBitOnRename=0 set in my wincmd.ini - that is why my TC behaves differently from Explorer.


That aside - SetArchiveBitOnRename only works for moving files, not for moving whole folders within the same drive/partition

2krzysiobal

First, this is not true - if you move folder in Windows explorer (Win XP, no idea how newest behaves), all moved files get the archive attribute set, even if you do it on the same partition.

I just tested Windows Explorer in my Windows XP sp3 - moving files (single or multiple) sets the archive bit, moving folders does NOT set the archive bit for the files inside the folder.

Second, also not true - if you move a single or multiple files file using TC, but not the full folders, they all get archive attribute set. Weird inconsistency.

See answer here above about using SetArchiveBitOnRename=0

[ghisler(Author)]

You registered today to report problems for version 7.55, what a joke.
No other file manager not even Windows Explorer does set the archive attribute in your case.
Your account will be watched, be warned.

Could you please be a bit less unfriendly to new users? Such answers will shy away many users who may need help. I appreciate all the time and efford you put in the forum, but please consider the reaction of people to such posts. Thanks for your understanding.

Regarding the issue, I have tested this on Windows 10 with the following results:
1. Cut and Paste a folder within the same drive in Explorer or Total Commander -> the files do not get the archive attribute.
2. Cut and Paste a folder from one drive to another in Explorer or Total Commander -> the files do get the archive attribute.

[Horst.Epp]

You registered today to report problems for version 7.55, what a joke.
No other file manager not even Windows Explorer does set the archive attribute in your case.
Your account will be watched, be warned.

Could you please be a bit less unfriendly to new users? Such answers will shy away many users who may need help. I appreciate all the time and efford you put in the forum, but please consider the reaction of people to such posts. Thanks for your understanding.

Regarding the issue, I have tested this on Windows 10 with the following results:
1. Cut and Paste a folder within the same drive in Explorer or Total Commander -> the files do not get the archive attribute.
2. Cut and Paste a folder from one drive to another in Explorer or Total Commander -> the files do get the archive attribute.

Ok
The results are the same I get.