Quick reordering of button bar buttons
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Quick reordering of button bar buttons
Here is a thing I am really missing from time to time:
How about quickly reordering buttons in the current button bar by keeping Alt or Ctrl or Shift pressed while dragging them with the mouse?
The change button bar dialog is a bit uncomfortable, especially with many buttons...
How about quickly reordering buttons in the current button bar by keeping Alt or Ctrl or Shift pressed while dragging them with the mouse?
The change button bar dialog is a bit uncomfortable, especially with many buttons...
Re: Quick reordering of button bar buttons
I agree 100%. I've thought about it a lot too.
Just let it be Shift, because it does it now when dragging from file panels.
And for Alt/Ctrl, it's better to do what I requested here.
Just let it be Shift, because it does it now when dragging from file panels.
And for Alt/Ctrl, it's better to do what I requested here.
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Re: Quick reordering of button bar buttons
Workaround:funkymonk wrote: 2023-05-14, 20:28 UTC How about quickly reordering buttons in the current button bar by keeping Alt or Ctrl or Shift pressed while dragging them with the mouse?
- right click and select copy on the button you want to move
- right click and select paste where you want the button to be
- delete the button you copied.
PS: Do you know that you can move a button in 'change button bar' with Shift+Cursor Left/Right?
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Re: Quick reordering of button bar buttons
I doubt he doesn't know about it. There is a different level of usability here.
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Re: Quick reordering of button bar buttons
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True, these two options exist. Still, especially for button bars with many buttons or users that maitain several button bars, a more convenient option would be great.
And: Shift+Drag might even allow to move buttons into/from button bars that open as menu.
True, these two options exist. Still, especially for button bars with many buttons or users that maitain several button bars, a more convenient option would be great.
And: Shift+Drag might even allow to move buttons into/from button bars that open as menu.
Re: Quick reordering of button bar buttons
Shift is already used for overiding opening buttons with other buttonbars as menu, so that might interfere with Shift+Drag...?Just let it be Shift, because it does it now when dragging from file panels.
But otherwisw support++++ for the proposal.
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Re: Quick reordering of button bar buttons
It could be done differently, e.g. entering the toolbar editing mode as in Firefox
Re: Quick reordering of button bar buttons
This will not interfere, since to switch to such a button bar, the mouse cursor must be above this button, which contradicts the very logic of dragging to other positions.petermad wrote: 2023-05-15, 11:46 UTC Shift is already used for overiding opening buttons with other buttonbars as menu, so that might interfere with Shift+Drag...?
There are many places where there is such a mode. For security, pinning the toolbar makes sense.Gral wrote: 2023-05-15, 12:02 UTCIt could be done differently, e.g. entering the toolbar editing mode as in Firefox
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Re: Quick reordering of button bar buttons
You can quickly move buttons by drag&drop in Configuration - Button bar.
If I added it directly to the bar, even with Shift, there would be a big danger of accidentally moving around buttons.
If I added it directly to the bar, even with Shift, there would be a big danger of accidentally moving around buttons.
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Re: Quick reordering of button bar buttons
The first message says:ghisler(Author) wrote: 2023-05-16, 19:14 UTC You can quickly move buttons by drag&drop in Configuration - Button bar.
funkymonk wrote: 2023-05-14, 20:28 UTCThe change button bar dialog is a bit uncomfortable, especially with many buttons...
As I wrote above, this feature is available on many toolbars of other programs. None of the authors were afraid to add this functionality. Yes, even in Windows panels (taskbar, quick launch), shortcuts can be dragged as you like. And there, for security, since the days of Windows 95, there is a proposed pinning function.ghisler(Author) wrote: 2023-05-16, 19:14 UTC If I added it directly to the bar, even with Shift, there would be a big danger of accidentally moving around buttons.
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Re: Quick reordering of button bar buttons
With ModifierKey+Click I also don't see a risk in accidentially moving a button.
(Actually, files/folders can also be moved/copied this way and nobody complains...
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And as said:
* The change button bar dialog is a bit uncomfortable, especially with many buttons...
One reason is that it is not resizable and shows only some buttons. Yes, it scrolls when dragging icons left or right but that's still not convenient.
* Modifier+Click might even allow to move buttons into/from/between button bars that open as menu.
At the moment it's extremely inconvenient to move buttons between button bars.
(Actually, files/folders can also be moved/copied this way and nobody complains...

And as said:
* The change button bar dialog is a bit uncomfortable, especially with many buttons...
One reason is that it is not resizable and shows only some buttons. Yes, it scrolls when dragging icons left or right but that's still not convenient.
* Modifier+Click might even allow to move buttons into/from/between button bars that open as menu.
At the moment it's extremely inconvenient to move buttons between button bars.
Re: Quick reordering of button bar buttons
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Well, I think the danger of doing this accidentally is quite low, and even if it happened by accident, it's not like there is any data loss or so, we can just move the button back.If I added it directly to the bar, even with Shift, there would be a big danger of accidentally moving around buttons.
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Re: Quick reordering of button bar buttons
Hi there. Is there any news on this suggestion?
Re: Quick reordering of button bar buttons
Using the Button Bar Editor from the Ultra TC Editors Add-on
makes all sort of button bar changes very easy.
https://totalcmd.net/plugring/ultra_tc_editors.html
makes all sort of button bar changes very easy.
https://totalcmd.net/plugring/ultra_tc_editors.html
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