Choosing which lister plugin to use in runtime

[radeknews]

Hello members,

I have checked the TC wiki
( http://www.ghisler.ch/wiki/index.php/Lister_plugins )

I have searched the forum, but I haven't found anything, so I started a new topic.

My question is:

Can I choose IN RUNTIME which lister plugin should be used with a file?
E.g. Whether I want to see a webpage graphically (with ieWebView) or edit the source code in HTML (with SynPlus)?

If so - how?

Thanks
Radek

[Sheepdog]

If so - how?

If the file is opened in Lister you should press [4] to cycle through all plugins that are able to display the certain file.

sheepdog

[radeknews]

If the file is opened in Lister you should press [4] to cycle through all plugins that are able to display the certain file.

sheepdog

Thanks - this is at least something,
although "cycling" is not very convenient,
especially since many plugins capture the keyboard,
so one has to use the lister menu.

Is there a way to decide in advance which one should be used, like with Alt and Shift keys?

Radek

[Sheepdog]

ALT+F3 Use alternate (external or internal) viewer
ALT+SHIFT+F3 Start Lister and load file with internal viewer (no plugins or multimedia)
SHIFT+F3 List only file under cursor, when multiple files selected

So the only way will be to associate particular filetypes to the external Lister and call it with special ini files. (asoociating within Total Commender at Configuration->Options->Edit/View:Associations). So you could at least use two different plugins: one installed in the wincmd.ini with [F3] and one in the ini for external Lister with [alt]+[F3].

The other thing you can do is to change the order of the plugins in the Lister plugin dialog. Because some plugins do not capture the keybord so you will be able to cycle.

Or you may also use the Choice Editor (pls search in the forum for a link) that will allow you to choose the programs to open a file with. Thus you may use more than one ini file for the external Lister.

sheepdog

[radeknews]

Thanks Sheepdog,
I've check out that choice editor - quite a smart idea -
if it could use the TC plugins...
Fortuantely, SynPlus comes with an executable though.

I knew about the plugin sequence, but there CAN be NO perfect sequence -
if such a list could be made per extension - then this would work.

I'm experimenting with the whatever+F3 configuration.

What about the quick-view with ctl-Q?
It seems reasonable to use the buit-in viewer -
if you want it to be as quick as possible,
but can I force TC to do that?
It keeps loading the first compatible plugin.

Thank you very much for your help

Radek

[ghisler(Author)]

I've check out that choice editor - quite a smart idea -
if it could use the TC plugins...
Fortuantely, SynPlus comes with an executable though.

Well, you can - by installing multiple external listers and set different ini files for them via command line parameters.

[radeknews]

Well, you can - by installing multiple external listers and set different ini files for them via command line parameters.

Thank you, but I don't have a clear picture of what should be in that ini file
to get a plugin A or B to work with the external viewer.

First I tried to pass "/I=%Commander_path%\wincmd.ini",
which in my view should copy the internal viewer's behavior -
as a start for further customizations.
That however did not work, i.e. I had the naked lister, no plugins,
so I must have misunderstood something.

Radek

[ghisler(Author)]

The standalone lister doesn't support any environment variables, sorry. You can either set an ini file which doesn't yet exist, and then add the plugin you need via the LS-Plugins button in the configuration dialog, or copy wincmd.ini to the new name and then delete the plugins you don't need.

[Sheepdog]

Thank you, but I don't have a clear picture of what should be in that ini file
to get a plugin A or B to work with the external viewer.

Create a file with the following content e.g. named "html.ini"

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[ListerPlugins]
0=%COMMANDER_PATH%\plugins\WLX\ieview.wlx

Put this into the file in the folder of the external lister and associate (within TC, see above post) html with (e.g.)

c:\Totalcmd\Addon\Lister\lister.exe /i=c:\Totalcmd\Addon\Lister\html.ini

That should do the trick to show html-files with ieview plugin.


sheepdog

[radeknews]

The standalone lister doesn't support any environment variables, sorry.

Now I see. Thank you.

You see, what I'd like to make the default option for F3 and Ctl+Q should be quick.

Seems like I end up writing my own plugin ..

Gruss
Radek

[Huggy]

Hi all,

I was on my way searching for something on the forum and stumbled upon this post which is close to what I am looking for.

I have been using TotalCommander for quite a long time now, but am still discovering new features / tricks every day
So maybe I missed this one

Does there exist a way to see from the Lister window the list of compatible plugins I can choose from ? In other words, can I know among which plugins pushing '4' will cycle and thereby choose dynamically from within lister which one I want to use ?

Thanks !

Stéphane

P.S. If that is possible, the suggestion I had was to add a dynamic menu listing the compatible viewers and allowing the user to choose ...

[Hacker]

Huggy,

Does there exist a way to see from the Lister window the list of compatible plugins I can choose from ? In other words, can I know among which plugins pushing '4' will cycle and thereby choose dynamically from within lister which one I want to use ?

No, no at the moment. But nice idea. Support++.

Roman

[Alextp]

Hacker
I guess it's hard to implement: because Lister knows, is plugin suitable for given file, only after trying to load that plugin. If plugin function ListLoad returns OK then plugin can work, if file is broken or extension is wrong ListLoad returns ERROR and plugin cannot work with this file...

You can built only list of pluging that have detect-string matching to file. But that's not final list.

[Hacker]

Alextp,

I guess it's hard to implement: because Lister knows, is plugin suitable for given file, only after trying to load that plugin.

Yes, I know, and I don't see a problem in that.

Roman

[Alextp]

2Hacker
We need to hear Ghisler: can he implement it?
(I don't think he can...)