Re: F7 button label

[DRP535]

Sorry to drag up an ancient zombie thread, but I searched for the question I wanted to ask before starting a new one and this was very close. If "New Directory" is too long for the available space on the bottom toolbar, then could the label of that F7 toolbar be at least spelt as F7 New Folder (ie. with a space between the New and Folder). I'm specifically referring to the 32bit installation version display here, not the x64. On 64bit it displays correctly as F7 New Folder, however on x86 versions it displays as F7 NewFolder which looks weird and wrong.

I use both versions installed on separate computers. One looks right and the other looks weird.

Moderator message from: white » 2023-06-27, 09:33 UTC

Since you made a new thread, I moved this post from this thread to here.
It contains important information about how you use your TC versions.

[DRP535]

Only applicable to x86 32bit version installation, but the label of the F7 NewFolder button on bottom toolbar has no space between New and Folder.

This is correctly labelled as F7 New Folder in x64 versions.

[white]

Apparently, you use the external English language on the computer with the 64-bit Total Commander and the internal English language on the computer with the 32-bit version.

[ghisler(Author)]

Currently there are no plans to change this, sorry.

[DRP535]

Apparently, you use the external English language on the computer with the 64-bit Total Commander and the internal English language on the computer with the 32-bit version.

Genuine serious question, since the misspelling won't be fixed natively within the program, how would I go about using an external language file on the XP computer to correct the spelling on the F7 button please?

[petermad]

2DRP535

how would I go about using an external language file on the XP computer to correct the spelling on the F7 button please?

Make a file in your total commander Language directory with the name wcmd_eng.lng

Put this in the file:

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English - External
1076="F7 New Folder"

Now, in TC's Language configuration, choose "English - External (wcmd_eng.lng)"

Or get the full wcmd_eng.lng file here: https://www.ghisler.com/b/difres1100.zip (for TC 11.00) or here: https://plugins.ghisler.com/languages/wcmd_eng.zip (for TC 10.52)

[DRP535]

Currently there are no plans to change this, sorry.

Thank you petermad that has worked perfectly. I have to ask though, why, when the solution seems to be so trivially easy, is this not going to be changed in the native program coding so that tweaking the language file isn't necessary?

[petermad]

2DRP535
I agree - there is no reason for the Internal English to be different from the external English - And I agree that there should be a space between "New" and "Folder" in the internal English too.

[JOUBE]

There can be several reasons why this is not changed:

- Ever heard of camelcase?

- it's a feature of the program and one can perhaps be proud of using a program that has such a special feature.

- Ghisler(author) perhaps associates this with a memory of the beginnings of the development of the - at that time - Windows Commander. (e.g. He was interrupted while developing the line and then later forgot it)

- Anyone who is bothered by it can easily change it themselves - as described in the posts above. And that's one of the principles here: if something can be solved by everyone, it won't be changed in the program code.

So I understand well why it is not changed by ghisler(author). Yes, more than that, I think it's a good thing.

Joube

[DRP535]

There can be several reasons why this is not changed:

- Ever heard of camelcase?

Yes. Have you heard of irrelevancies?

[jonathanpoulin]

Currently there are no plans to change this, sorry.

I am really curious to hear a little bit more from you Mr. Ghisler, about it.

Are you keeping "NewFolder" to have it the shorter possible, to support resolution as low as 640x480? If so, why not using "New Dir"? It would be 2 characters shorter, and 1 character shorter when comparing the whole button label, "F7 New Dir" vs. "Alt+F4 Exit" (the longer).

I think (I may be wrong) the word "directory" is used everywhere in TC except for the F7 button and its dialog, where it is "folder" instead. Sounds strange to me. As a side note, in the help file, both "directory" and "folder" are used interchangeably. That's less important though, but maybe it should be changed as well.

By the way, a small detail: For the F7 dialog, it should include the colon, like in "New directory:" or "New folder (directory):", as proposed here, a very long time ago. The colon is used in SHIFT+F4 dialog, in "Split" dialog, in "Find Files", in ftp connection modal window, etc. This is only to respect some sort of standard. But, this is minor of course!

[petermad]

I think (I may be wrong) the word "directory" is used everywhere in TC except for the F7 button and its dialog,

In the English language file:
Directory is used in 80 strings
Dir is used in 19 strings
Folder is used in 47 strings

[jonathanpoulin]

In the English language file:
Directory is used in 80 strings
Dir is used in 19 strings
Folder is used in 47 strings

Thanks for the count.

In your Extended Menus, the file WCMD_ENG.LNG is the untouched English language file, the same strings used internally? I am asking because I found the following line (while internally it is "F7 NewFolder".

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1076="F7 New Folder"

[white]

In your Extended Menus, the file WCMD_ENG.LNG is the untouched English language file, the same strings used internally? I am asking because I found the following line (while internally it is "F7 NewFolder".

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1076="F7 New Folder"

Which is discussed in detail in this thread. I already mentioned it in the third post from the top and it was discussed in more detail in later posts.

[jonathanpoulin]

In your Extended Menus, the file WCMD_ENG.LNG is the untouched English language file, the same strings used internally? I am asking because I found the following line (while internally it is "F7 NewFolder".

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1076="F7 New Folder"

Which is discussed in detail in this thread. I already mentioned it in the third post from the top and it was discussed in more detail in later posts.

I am not sure I understand, white. I just wanted to know if the WCMD_ENG.LNG found in the Extended Menus package from Peter is an "extraction" of all the "default strings" (english) of TC.