MS Office icons

The behaviour described in the bug report is either by design, or would be far too complex/time-consuming to be changed

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MS Office icons

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Hi there.

About two months ago, i can't see MS Office Icons in totalcmd. I see standard file icon in his place.

I upgrade my version to 7.0, but they do not appear.

Are there anyone solution??

Thanks in advance.
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Thanks, but i think that it isn't my solution. I had trying several icon packs and it doesn't resolve my issue.

I don't speak about file icons in general or button bar icons. My problem are microsoft office icons only, in file panel.

Sorry, but I can't post an image until wednesday.

Thanks, another time :wink: Regards.
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Maybe reassigning of MSO extensions will help.
Try to do it in
My Computer -- Service -- Folder options -- File types tab dialog
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I did it in first time.

In Windows explorer, I see icons but not in totalcmd.

I think that maybe a MS Windows Patch, because my friend works in my organization.

Thank u for ur help.
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Have a look at your TC settings:

Configuration - Options - Display -Icons
Option "All" or "All associated ..." must be enabled !
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Post by *Balkyre »

I still having the same issue, I have upgraded to 7.02a versión. I have this settings correctly configured. (also tried with all the options of display icons without result)

Can you help me, with other suggestions?

thanks in advance...
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Post by *ghisler(Author) »

Associations in Windows have become a real chaos of dozens of different registry key locations. I would need to know how exactly the associations are defined on your system to find out why the office icons aren't shown, sorry.
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I thought you are just using SHGetFileInfo to get this information don't you?
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No I don't, because SHGetFileInfo gets difficult to recognize icons. For example, for files where there is no DefaultIcon entry, TC shows the icon of the associated EXE. SHGetFileInfo, however, returns a "sheet of paper" with a small version of that icon, which can hardly be recognized...
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SHGetFileInfo gets difficult to recognize icons.
So you don't trust the system to get the icons. The idea to provide better recognizable ideas is fine but the Windows association system is too complicated to make this happen - as you wrote above.

For this reason I think a better solution would be to get the icons from the system to avoid problems as described in this report.

If the user thinks the displayed icon is not recognizable he can choose another one. THis can be done system-wide or with a TC internal association system which is hopefully implemented in the future.
http://www.ghisler.ch/wiki/index.php/Open_files_by_filetype
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For example, for files where there is no DefaultIcon entry, TC shows the icon of the associated EXE.
1. The papersheet icon has a signal character which you are hiding from the user. It's a bad idea to confuse users with what you think is better "recognizable" because on the desktop, in Explorer, in other file managers, open with dialog, etc... the icons are displayed differently.

2. The papersheet icon is displayed not very often in Explorer because of the PerceivedType feature. Under HKCR\SystemFileAssociations there are fallback types defined which use general icons, so even when no DefaultIcon is defined in the direct association, Explorer still displays a full icon and NOT the papersheet. It makes no sense to dream about Windows 95 registry, this is outdated crap. The PerceivedType feature rocks because it allows to assign 100 extensions to one application just by adding the appropiate PerceivedType to HKCR\.ext. When the default program needs to be exchanged, one single change in the PerceivedType will update all 100 extensions in one single step.

3. Another signal problem in TC:
Please add an option to get rid of that exclamation mark (!) icon you are displaying for hidden and system files. In Explorer I can see the true icon dimmed and therefore am able to see in which application it will be opened when I doubleclick it. TC hides this information from me.

Please, make TC compatible to Explorer icon and execute behaviour, remove the internal association dialog because it's hopelessly outdated and does more harm than good and replace it with some decent internal association override feature, as proposed by Lefteous.

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icfu,
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2icfu

Yes, good points!
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