[8.0ß23] ''cm_UnloadPlugins'' kills TC while packing 7z

MaxX · Post by *MaxX » 2012-03-29, 19:26 UTC

Subj, command ''cm_UnloadPlugins'' kills TC 8.0 beta 23 (x32) while packing 7z in background.
Uused plugin - ''7zip.wcx'' v.0.7.6.5, this one - http://www.totalcmd.net/plugring/7zip_plugin.html .
x64 didn't tested yet (not enough time, i'll try later)
As I see it's normal, 'cause main window and process must be alive, but I have just self-killing operation.
What can I do? Or it's bug of TC/plugin?

Sir_SiLvA · Post by *Sir_SiLvA » 2012-03-29, 21:49 UTC

I dont see where their is a bug?
You pack something using 7zip.wcx and then YOU tell TC he should stop using that dll - what do you expect to happen?
Apart from TC crashing?

I mean isnt that like trying to dance and then asking someone to hit your legs with a bat?

MaxX · Post by *MaxX » 2012-03-29, 23:03 UTC

2Sir_SiLvA
Ne-a, I'm not about that.
If I hit ''cm_UnloadPlugins'' it should stop all plugins, but not kill main process. That's what I'm talking about.

Sir_SiLvA · Post by *Sir_SiLvA » 2012-03-30, 00:06 UTC

MaxX wrote:If I hit ''cm_UnloadPlugins'' it should stop all plugins, but not kill main process.

You cant have one without the other - see my dance comparison...
Thats why using something complex like TC requires you to able to think about what you wanna do before you do it

MVV · Post by *MVV » 2012-03-30, 05:21 UTC

I think it is a plugin bug, not TC, because TC just tries to unload plugin DLL.

Post by *ghisler(Author) » 2012-03-30, 10:22 UTC

cm_UnloadPlugins is mainly meant for developers who want to recompile their plugin without having to close TC. It does what it should, it just unloads all the plugins. It doesn't check whether any of these plugins are currently active, so don't use it while packing/unpacking in the background, or while a plugin like VisualDirSize is busy counting directories.

MaxX · Post by *MaxX » 2012-03-30, 10:42 UTC

2ghisler(Author)
so, you mean that killing TC is normal in such situation?

MVV · Post by *MVV » 2012-03-30, 13:22 UTC

MaxX, TC can't prevent OS from closing it if some of its plugins cause serious errors.

MaxX · Post by *MaxX » 2012-03-30, 19:52 UTC

so, you say it is plugin's bug?

HolgerK · Post by *HolgerK » 2012-03-30, 20:37 UTC

User bug?
"saw off the branch you are sitting on"

Holger

MVV · Post by *MVV » 2012-03-31, 13:35 UTC

Yes, it is a plugin bug, but it may be fixed since plugin comes with sources.

Sir_SiLvA · Post by *Sir_SiLvA » 2012-03-31, 13:52 UTC

MVV wrote:Yes, it is a plugin bug, but it may be fixed since plugin comes with sources.

NO

as HolgerK wrote its a USER-"Bug"

MaxX · Post by *MaxX » 2012-03-31, 14:17 UTC

2Sir_SiLvA
There's totalcmd's OR plugin's bug. No user used there.
If ''cm_UnloadPlugins'' was called, plugins must stop working but totalcmd must be working as it was without quiet crash.
It's a bug, definitely! Don't try to say sh**.

MVV · Post by *MVV » 2012-03-31, 14:25 UTC

Sir_SiLvA, TC crash is a bug. We can say that user shouldn't use this command when some pugin works but bug will remain anyway.

Sir_SiLvA · Post by *Sir_SiLvA » 2012-03-31, 14:32 UTC

2MVV
So you say in the scenario:
MaxX sits on a tree and saws branch he sits on off and falls down

You seriously think its the saws-bug that he fell down ????

Oh sure you can make everything absolutly fail safe or you can advice people how to use something proper and not do everything stupid possible....