TC 8.0 beta 24 x64 shows wrong solid color (not dotted) for active drive buttons:
x32 looks good - Image: http://savepic.su/1676225.png
x64 gets bug - Image: http://savepic.su/1665985.png
[8.0ß24 x64] Visual bug, wrong appearance of drive buttons
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Absolutely shocking. 
Renders the whole drive buttonbar in T.C. 8.0ß24 64-bit more or less useless. 
Honestly, there is a difference, no more, no less. If Christian can make the pressed drive buttons look identical in the 32-bit and in the 64-bit edtions, fine, if not, who gives a dime?
On Windows 7 SP1 32-bit using Aero theme the background of the pressed drive letter is not dotted, either: tc8.0ß24_drive_buttons. The important thing is that the state "pressed" is clearly recognizeable.
Just checked the drive look and feel on Server 2008 R2, classic theme:
There is another difference between the pressed drive buttons of T.C. 8.0ß24 32-bit and T.C.8.0ß 64-bit:
If you hover over the pressed drive button with your mouse in T.C. 8.0ß24 32-bit, the background will not change. Hovering will not produce any visible effect. (Fine. Who said it should?)
If you hover over the pressed drive button with your mouse in T.C. 8.0ß24 64-bit, however, the background color will turn a little bit darker and look more solid than before. (Fine. Who said it should not do so?)
The point actually will be that as long as Christian continues developing T.C.8.0 32-bit and T.C8.0 64-bit on two absolutely different development environments like old Delphi and Free Pascal/Lazarus he may never be able to avoid such really minor visual differences 100%.
But keeping in mind that T.C. will look a little bit different on different Windows versions in particular when using themes like Luna or Aero as opposed to Classic Theme, does the dotted background of a button vs the non-dotted background of the same button really matter?
How then do we handle the hovering effect which is present in T.C. 8.0ß 64-bit, but not in T.C. 8.0 32-bit? Is this hovering effect which is present in T.C. 8.0ß 64-bit a bug? Or is it a feature missing from T.C. 8.0ß 32-bit?
Karl
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P.S. (Saturday): Screenshots illustrating what I see on Server 2008 R2, classic theme, added here.
Renders the whole drive buttonbar in T.C. 8.0ß24 64-bit more or less useless. Honestly, there is a difference, no more, no less. If Christian can make the pressed drive buttons look identical in the 32-bit and in the 64-bit edtions, fine, if not, who gives a dime?
On Windows 7 SP1 32-bit using Aero theme the background of the pressed drive letter is not dotted, either: tc8.0ß24_drive_buttons. The important thing is that the state "pressed" is clearly recognizeable.
Just checked the drive look and feel on Server 2008 R2, classic theme:
There is another difference between the pressed drive buttons of T.C. 8.0ß24 32-bit and T.C.8.0ß 64-bit:
If you hover over the pressed drive button with your mouse in T.C. 8.0ß24 32-bit, the background will not change. Hovering will not produce any visible effect. (Fine. Who said it should?)
If you hover over the pressed drive button with your mouse in T.C. 8.0ß24 64-bit, however, the background color will turn a little bit darker and look more solid than before. (Fine. Who said it should not do so?)
The point actually will be that as long as Christian continues developing T.C.8.0 32-bit and T.C8.0 64-bit on two absolutely different development environments like old Delphi and Free Pascal/Lazarus he may never be able to avoid such really minor visual differences 100%.
But keeping in mind that T.C. will look a little bit different on different Windows versions in particular when using themes like Luna or Aero as opposed to Classic Theme, does the dotted background of a button vs the non-dotted background of the same button really matter?
How then do we handle the hovering effect which is present in T.C. 8.0ß 64-bit, but not in T.C. 8.0 32-bit? Is this hovering effect which is present in T.C. 8.0ß 64-bit a bug? Or is it a feature missing from T.C. 8.0ß 32-bit?
Karl
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P.S. (Saturday): Screenshots illustrating what I see on Server 2008 R2, classic theme, added here.
Last edited by karlchen on 2012-04-07, 14:13 UTC, edited 2 times in total.
MX Linux 21.3 64-bit xfce, Total Commander 11.50 64-bit
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2karlchen
For classic (!) theme, dotted bg of any pressed button is standard appearanse. It should never be solid like this.
For classic (!) theme, dotted bg of any pressed button is standard appearanse. It should never be solid like this.
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2HolgerK
I use only original classic theme at any Win since 9x, and don't need to modify it.
I use only original classic theme at any Win since 9x, and don't need to modify it.
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Hi, MaxX.
We have both made our opposite points of view clear. In the end, I assume, Christian will handle your bug report in a pragmatical way:
Can Lazarus be instructed to display the pressed drive button in exactly the same way as Delphi does without investing an unreasonable amount of development time and without breaking something else?
In case this is the case he may feel like doing so.
In case the answer to the question is "no" then he might decide that we will have to live with this really minor inconsistency.
Kind regards,
Karl
We have both made our opposite points of view clear. In the end, I assume, Christian will handle your bug report in a pragmatical way:
Can Lazarus be instructed to display the pressed drive button in exactly the same way as Delphi does without investing an unreasonable amount of development time and without breaking something else?
In case this is the case he may feel like doing so.
In case the answer to the question is "no" then he might decide that we will have to live with this really minor inconsistency.
Kind regards,
Karl
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Just for you:HolgerK wrote:At least you modified the DriveLib icons.
x32 - http://savepic.su/1664964.png
x64 - http://savepic.su/1670084.png
See? No diffrence - external dll, or internal icons.
Definitely, No.HolgerK wrote:Maybe that's the reason?
I'm only trying to break done the conditions under which this bug appears.MaxX wrote:Just for you:...
I can only confirm the visual glitch when hovering the active drive button with the mouse.
There must be a reason for that.MaxX wrote:In my system I see this all the time, no matter if hovered mouse or not.
Did you try to start TC with a new INI-File?
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TOTALCMD64.EXE /i="%TEMP%\Fresh.ini"Holger
2HolgerK
empty config -> result is the same, no diffrence
empty config -> result is the same, no diffrence
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