-8.5ß3: Unexpected reaction when folder tabs are deactivated

Dennis_Stevens · Post by *Dennis_Stevens » 2013-09-18, 17:26 UTC

In my Commander the configuration option "Show folder tabs" is deactivated.
In this case, the hot key ctrl+T starts the Multi-Rename-Tool, which is supposed to start by use of ctrl+M.

Sir_SiLvA · Post by *Sir_SiLvA » 2013-09-18, 19:01 UTC

This is NOT a BUG but DEFAULT behavior!

HolgerK · Post by *HolgerK » 2013-09-18, 20:35 UTC

Once again: Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature.

Holger

Post by *ghisler(Author) » 2013-09-19, 14:15 UTC

2HolgerK
Ctrl+T was the hotkey for the multi-rename tool before TC had tabs. It was changed to Ctrl+M to make TC compatible with other tools using tabs, like most Web browsers which use Ctrl+T for tabs.

For backward compatibilty, Ctrl+T again opens the multi-rename tool when the user disables tabs.

HolgerK · Post by *HolgerK » 2013-09-19, 15:28 UTC

I know.

But it's unexpected for new users (only mentioned in history.txt section "New in Version 4.50", 13 years ago...).
Meanwhile <Ctrl+M> is the default hotkey since 10 years.
I'm just wondering who may still use <Ctrl+T> to call the Multi Rename Tool...

Regards
Holger

Dennis_Stevens · Post by *Dennis_Stevens » 2013-09-20, 18:42 UTC

OK, then what about placing a new option to choose in the configuration window?
If tabs are disabled you can choose whether to have backward compatibility or not.
It is indeed strange to have two different hotkeys for one function under two different circumstances.

Dennis_Stevens · Post by *Dennis_Stevens » 2013-09-20, 18:51 UTC

And talking about tabs and the configuration-window:
Wouldn't it make sense to change the position of "Show folder tabs" from "Layout" to "Folder Tabs"?

MVV · Post by *MVV » 2013-09-20, 19:11 UTC

You can redefine hotkey Ctrl+M manually so it will open MRT in any cases. But I doubt that someone still uses Ctrl+T for MRT... Again, (s)he can redefine Ctrl+T.

Wouldn't it make sense to change the position of "Show folder tabs" from "Layout" to "Folder Tabs"?

It sounds logically, since checkbox enables/disables tabs and not just shows/hides them. And other options on Folder Tabs page must be disabled when checkbox is unchecked to make it more evident that it switches tabs off (and won't save their state anymore).

Post by *ghisler(Author) » 2013-09-22, 13:41 UTC

Sorry, I don't have any plans to change that.

Post by *Hacker » 2013-09-23, 13:06 UTC

Christian,
Well, you could simply add Ctrl-M as a shortcut to start the MRT regardless of the "Show folder tabs" setting. Should not break anything and everyone would be happy and no unexpected behavior.

Roman

HolgerK · Post by *HolgerK » 2013-09-23, 15:21 UTC

Hacker wrote:... simply add Ctrl-M as a shortcut to start the MRT regardless of the "Show folder tabs" setting.

This is actual the current behavior.

Regards
Holger

Post by *Hacker » 2013-09-23, 16:35 UTC

HolgerK,
Hmm, in that case I misunderstood the problem; please disregard.

Roman

MVV · Post by *MVV » 2013-09-23, 17:41 UTC

Really, Ctrl+M opens MRT in any case. But Ctrl+T opens MRT too when tabs are disabled. And there is nothing strange, Ctrl+T is unused in such case.

HolgerK · Post by *HolgerK » 2013-09-23, 19:42 UTC

The problem is something like this:

You locked the door.
.. and some time later while you're pressing the door handle down ... the light goes on.

As i said: Unexpected.
You will call for a electrician.

Holger

MVV · Post by *MVV » 2013-09-23, 20:54 UTC

The question is: Why do you need to press door handle while the door is locked?