Lister - very bad UI change for "text not found"
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Lister - very bad UI change for "text not found"
In recent versions of Total Commander, the way Lister works has changed.
When you view a file, and hit F7 to search for a text, you first enter your searched for text, then hit Enter, and it will search for it within the file.
Now, if the text is found, it simply goes to the place where it was found
BUT
if the text is not found, you get a dialog box 'Not Found' with OK and Cancel buttons. If you hit OK button (or hit Enter key), dialog box for search will re-eappear, if you hit Cancel button (or hit Escape key) the messagebox and dialogbix will disappear.
In the past, you would get a message box with 'Not Found' text and just one button: 'OK'
Introduction of the OK/Cancel buttons (moving from message box to dialog box) is very annoying as it contradicts 2 decades of muscle memory developed from using Lister the way described above.
Image: https://ibb.co/8dVtyJ3
Can the Option be introduced to make it configurable (old way vs. new way)?
Thank you
When you view a file, and hit F7 to search for a text, you first enter your searched for text, then hit Enter, and it will search for it within the file.
Now, if the text is found, it simply goes to the place where it was found
BUT
if the text is not found, you get a dialog box 'Not Found' with OK and Cancel buttons. If you hit OK button (or hit Enter key), dialog box for search will re-eappear, if you hit Cancel button (or hit Escape key) the messagebox and dialogbix will disappear.
In the past, you would get a message box with 'Not Found' text and just one button: 'OK'
Introduction of the OK/Cancel buttons (moving from message box to dialog box) is very annoying as it contradicts 2 decades of muscle memory developed from using Lister the way described above.
Image: https://ibb.co/8dVtyJ3
Can the Option be introduced to make it configurable (old way vs. new way)?
Thank you
Re: Lister - very bad UI change for "text not found"
As workaround use the CudaLister plugin.
Its much better for most text viewing and shows a not found simply in the status bar.
Its much better for most text viewing and shows a not found simply in the status bar.
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QAP 11.6.4.4 x64
TC 11.55 RC2 x64 / x86
Everything 1.5.0.1391a (x64), Everything Toolbar 1.5.2.0, Listary Pro 6.3.2.88
QAP 11.6.4.4 x64
Re: Lister - very bad UI change for "text not found"
I think I've seen a suggestion to make Lister's search function this way, but I can't find it right now (or I might remember incorrectly). The only thing related is this bug report: viewtopic.php?t=76311
Anyway, if you use ESC key in any case, you'll get the same behavior as before.
I can see the advantage of the new behavior, especially when one needs to look for several strings within the same file. But I agree that there needs to be some option to control this behavior (haven't checked if there is any already).
Regards
Dalai
Anyway, if you use ESC key in any case, you'll get the same behavior as before.
I can see the advantage of the new behavior, especially when one needs to look for several strings within the same file. But I agree that there needs to be some option to control this behavior (haven't checked if there is any already).
Regards
Dalai
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Re: Lister - very bad UI change for "text not found"
Thanks for the replies
!!!
Really hope option can be introduced. Otherwise may need to go back to v10.00
Yes, for my specific case it won't work well, as it's primarly for doing a lor of forensic/reversing work and working a lot with one-off searches. And I have a muscle memory of hitting ENTER. I try to unlearn it, and use ESC, but it's HARDDalai wrote: 2023-01-23, 14:33 UTC I think I've seen a suggestion to make Lister's search function this way, but I can't find it right now (or I might remember incorrectly). The only thing related is this bug report: viewtopic.php?t=76311
Anyway, if you use ESC key in any case, you'll get the same behavior as before.
I can see the advantage of the new behavior, especially when one needs to look for several strings within the same file. But I agree that there needs to be some option to control this behavior (haven't checked if there is any already).

Agreed, and I use CUDA for some files, but I work a lot with unstructured data + habits are hard to drop.Horst.Epp wrote: 2023-01-23, 12:23 UTC As workaround use the CudaLister plugin.
Its much better for most text viewing and shows a not found simply in the status bar.
Really hope option can be introduced. Otherwise may need to go back to v10.00

Re: Lister - very bad UI change for "text not found"
12.04.22 Release Total Commander 10.50 beta 1
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28.02.22 Added: Lister: When a new text search doesn't find anything, show buttons OK+Cancel in warning. Clicking OK then re-opens the search dialog, Cancel doesn't (32/64)
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viewtopic.php?t=76896
+ pay attention - in which part of forum i found it: Index * Total Commander bugs and suggestions * TC Behaviour which will not be changed
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28.02.22 Added: Lister: When a new text search doesn't find anything, show buttons OK+Cancel in warning. Clicking OK then re-opens the search dialog, Cancel doesn't (32/64)
.....
viewtopic.php?t=76896
+ pay attention - in which part of forum i found it: Index * Total Commander bugs and suggestions * TC Behaviour which will not be changed
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Re: Lister - very bad UI change for "text not found"
thanks for the findingAntonyD wrote: 2023-01-24, 06:33 UTC 12.04.22 Release Total Commander 10.50 beta 1
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28.02.22 Added: Lister: When a new text search doesn't find anything, show buttons OK+Cancel in warning. Clicking OK then re-opens the search dialog, Cancel doesn't (32/64)
.....
viewtopic.php?t=76896
+ pay attention - in which part of forum i found it: Index * Total Commander bugs and suggestions * TC Behaviour which will not be changed
and omg, I have to go back to 10.00

really hope someone from Moldova will port Dos Navigator to Windows

Re: Lister - very bad UI change for "text not found"
try this http://ndn.muxe.com/port Dos Navigator to Windows
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Re: Lister - very bad UI change for "text not found"
Thank you my friend, you make me think of old days. I know NDN, Volkov Commander, FAR, DoubleCommander, and many others. I am old. Time to become a farmer.
Re: Lister - very bad UI change for "text not found"
Not only for you))) why do you think - I know about this tool|site?I am old. Time to become a farmer.

DN indeed was the ulta-mega-super-very cool tool !
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