[TC 11.03]Moving file via BREADCRUMB not working in a certain sequence of operations

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Re: [TC 11.03]Moving file via BREADCRUMB not working in a certain sequence of operations

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AntonyD wrote: 2024-10-15, 10:43 UTC
Do you mean that the content menu pops up just because you move the cursor over a folder in the breadcrumb bar???
No, of course. Let's read my steps again:
"After that I moved the mouse cursor to this panel and stopped there - where you will see it in the screenshot:
https://i.ibb.co/JRVbTnH/2024-10-15-001433.png
Just look at the tip of the mouse cursor - this is its ultimate goal.
And after that, I just called up the context menu. As usual, as always, as everyone does: by clicking the RMB."
Two actions - one after another. Don't you read it so? Picture is a result of these both.
Yes but you show the link to the screenshot after the first sentence, where you haven't yet pressed the RMB - and the screenshot already shows the context menu .

But OK, the context meny pops up after you press RMB - the same here - what is the bug? That it is not the context menu for the folder clicked on in the breadcrumb bar?

AntonyD wrote: 2024-10-15, 10:43 UTC And regarding the full conditions for reproducing the problem.
Here you asked me to do everything on a clean INI file, but we forgot
that I described my problems in addition to those that the topiс starter had.
And he had the option turned off:
"Configuration" -> "Misc" -> "Get confirmation before" -> "Drag&Drop (copying files with mouse)"
(it is enabled by default in a fresh INI)
As I understand it, your complaint is no longer about the error message "Cannot copy/move, since frie content of Yne directory was changed by another application!", so the setting for drag&drop is no longer relevant.

You complaint is about the context menu popping up during drag and drop - something that no one else has confirmed so far - Am I wrong in that assumption.

I can see from your video (I have place it her for convenience: https://tcmd.madsenworld.dk/2024_10_15_13_49_08_770.mp4 ) - that it happens for you, and you can see on my video https://tcmd.madsenworld.dk/dragtobreadcrumb.mp4 that it doesn't for me.

I would still like to know where in the process you press the RMB and where you release the LMB and then the RMB? I assume that you release LMB before RMB?

In your video I never see the mouse cursor change to the move cursor (with the red minus) - it looks more like you drag with the only the LMB pressed, all the way to the target, then release the LMB and then press the RMB. That will just copy (not move) the file and the the RMB of course opens the context menu because it i pressed AFTER you have released th LMB.

The right way to move a file with mouse only is: left-click on the file and hold the LMB pressed -> move the mouse a little until you see the mouse cursor change to the copy cursor with a plus sign -> Keep LMB pressed and press RMB -> the mouse cursor changes to the move cursor with a red minus sign -> with both buttons pressed move the cursor to the target (the mouse cursor should still show the red minus) -> Release the LMB and the moving of the file is instigated -> release the RMB. Is this how you do it?
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Re: [TC 11.03]Moving file via BREADCRUMB not working in a certain sequence of operations

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https://www.upload.ee/files/17260784/2024_10_15_18_04_28_379.mp4.html
As you see - I CAN make a proper moving with "the mouse cursor changes to the move cursor with a red minus sign"
BUT w/o your "correct" scenarios when you say that I must "Keep LMB pressed and press RMB" BEFORE! the mouse's real movement
over the screen! I just press and hold the RMB in the final destination point - just for a half of a sec., at this instant moment -
I release the till now constantly pressed LMB and yet after that I instantly release finally the still held pressed RMB.
Of course, while I move the mouse cursor to the desired "release" point, I keep the LMB constantly pressed too.


But judging by your description of your point of view of the situation and the complete lack of reaction from the author,
It looks like this will remain a special behavior that only I can reproduce.
BUT the truth is, given the negative effect of this, most likely I will NOT reproduce it)))
so that this menu does not slow down my usual sequence of actions with my fingers and mouse keys.
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Re: [TC 11.03]Moving file via BREADCRUMB not working in a certain sequence of operations

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2AntonyD
when you say that I must "Keep LMB pressed and press RMB" BEFORE! the mouse's real movement
over the screen!
That is not what i wrote - I wrote:
petermad wrote: 2024-10-15, 13:26 UTCleft-click on the file and hold the LMB pressed -> move the mouse a little until you see the mouse cursor change to the copy cursor with a plus sign -> Keep LMB pressed and press RMB
You can wait pressing the RMB until you point at the target, as long as the LMB is pressed first (as you describe) - when dragging to the breadcrumb bar though, I find it easier to press RMB before I am over the breadcrumb bar, because if I wait until I am over the breadcrumb, the time it takes to press the RMB could cause the breadcrumb menu to unfold, and then I can't move to the path I point at in the breadcrumb bar.

Have you tried my way where you press RMB before you are over the breadcrumb bar - any difference?
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Re: [TC 11.03]Moving file via BREADCRUMB not working in a certain sequence of operations

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any difference?
yes. in such case there definitely will not be a call to the context menu.
and that didn't happen. BUT such way of using buttons and my fingers is SOOOOO unpleasant.
so I will stay with my habit and only will not use this BAR for the files moving process.
Because for me this rising context menu - is a pain, completely unnecessary pain.

p.s.
That is not what i wrote - I wrote:
yes, I saw, read, understood your full post - I just underlined the main thing in it.
It is this feature of your habit of using mouse buttons and causes unnecessary pain.
That’s why I highlighted this moment by cutting out part of your post.
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2AntonyD
BUT such way of using buttons and my fingers is SOOOOO unpleasant.
Funny, I feel sooo stressed when i use you way, because I have to press the right button and release the left so fast after each other
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Re: [TC 11.03]Moving file via BREADCRUMB not working in a certain sequence of operations

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That is why it was very difficult for me to find some understandable analogue of the word for my action in English,
to make it clear how quickly and easily I can perform this part of the operation. It just literally clicked like this,
then instantly clicked like this. And the finished result is instantly obtained.
"re-click" - this is the closest analogue. The possible translation reflects this immediacy.

OK. bug is fixed. topic is closed)))
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