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Referring to the NS time, Roy wrote
We should all be very vigilant to make sure our time is not like that.
This is true, indeed.

Yet, the fact that this thread exists and that we all can express our different points of view in this forum clearly indicates that there are no NS moderators around here.
The right to express one's opinion does not include the right to insult other people.
From my point of view, referring to our forum moderators as N@zis, even with a question mark, is absolutely inadequate and inacceptible. It is either unhistorical or simply ignorant or maybe both. Full stop!

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The use of the word "****" in this context may have been a pour taste, but original poster meant it as a synonym for "intolerant" and that is an accurate description of moderators in this forum.
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OMG.

AGAIN, I am sorry if I insulted ANYONE by using the N-term, from my background it's simply not connected to history anymore.

Anyone else concerned please see "Soup N--i" from movie called Seinfeld. There was no such negative emotions or feedback around it.

Please remember that we come from different times and mentalities. People burried in past so much, again *SORRY*.
Please do not ban me, scream at me just because of my opinions. Please do NOT revoke my TC license.
What one can really appreciate on the other side of the ocean, is the freedom of speech and thoughts. Come on, it has been over 60 years, and most of you should not even attempt to talk on the N-word subject. My family can tell what it really means. Even though I have no problem to adjust to our present reality and the fact that words change meanings.
Remember that term simply does NOT apply in present.

If you all feel I went to far, just delete that post (and thread) and that's it.
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Before: Christian Ghisler > Now: Christian dictator
Before: WC/TC > Now: SS
Before: Hacker > Now: Göbels
Before: Lefteous > Now: Mengele


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JP wrote:Before: Christian Ghisler > Now: Christian dictator
My original message had "Before: Christian Ghisler > Now: Christian H itler".

As everybody can see, we have NO FREEDOM in this forum since moderators started controling our posts. I hope the person who has changed my post will have the courage necessary to say "It was me that has changed this post".
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VERY NICE!!!!!!

Try to write "H*tler" using "i" instead of "*" and you get "dictator". As I said before: NO FREEDOM in this forum after moderation. So, my original post was just a bit of humour: Now it's a COMPLAIN. You boys, you're really NAZIS, whatever this means inside your little brain!
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I suppose some words were banned even before moderators have appeared. Even if just moderators did it - it isn't a big problem for me, my English maybe is not perfect but I know some other words to express what I mean.

Guys, please... I remember the times when we used to meet here to talk about TC. It was not so long ago... Let's do it again.
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JP:
In case you didn't notice this forum is about TC. The word/name you used has absolutely no connection to TC.

I suggest you focus on talking about TC. That would leave the moderators with nothing to do in your post so it would not get moderated in any way. Besides word filtering has nothing to do with moderators as it's an automatic process. I don't really understand how you can actualy complain about moderation when you're intentionaly trying to go around the rules.
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piranha,
Please remember that we come from different times and mentalities.
Exactly. Please remember that, too.
What one can really appreciate on the other side of the ocean, is the freedom of speech and thoughts.
Try openly saying that you like what happened at 9/11, that you welcome the deaths of ~3000 people, that you sympathize with terrorists, especially Mr. Bin Laden and see how people will appreciate your freedom of speech and thoughts.
Remember that term simply does NOT apply in present.
Hmm, ever heard of the people who simply prepend "neo-" before that term?

JP,
The moderators are not responsible for the word filter.

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piranha wrote:AGAIN, I am sorry if I insulted ANYONE by using the N-term, from my background it's simply not connected to history anymore.
For me it is not so much to insult anyone to call him a ****.

It's rather you play down what Nazis did. You know, they tried - almost with success - to rub out a whole race, the Jews. They build "Kontzentrationslager" where they did such horrible things to people one could not imagine. I don'd know if you ever visited a "KZ", but I guess not. To see the lots and lots of people that were only sceletons, forced to work really hard. And if they couldn't to have to die. And the survivors had to get their gold teeth, and shave their hair off to fill cushions with it and anything.

I think there are only very few people who could be compared with Nazis.
Come on, it has been over 60 years, and most of you should not even attempt to talk on the N-word subject.

It did not even take a few years until some people claimed the "KZs" were a lie. And they keep on doing so.
And once everyone uses **** as a common term for anybody bad he will bann from his mind what the real Nazis did.

My family can tell what it really means.
So I doubt they told it to you in a decent way.
Remember that term simply does NOT apply in present.
IMHO not to use this term in his native meaning is denying the things that been done from the Nazis.
If you all feel I went to far, just delete that post (and thread) and that's it.
I don't think one should do so (and I'm pretty sure neither the moderators nor @ghisler would do so). As your post shows: It's still time to discuss the issue. So anybody who reads this post and the replies he will have to think about it by himself.

Apart from that:

If you are used to use a word in a different meaning than the community you are talking to and you know about this difference it is IMHO an offence not to use the meaning used by the community.

If I like to call my friends 'asshole' as a funny nick I can not expect that unknown people understand and respect my use of the word if I call them ' dear assholes'.

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Yes, drag out the Jews to defend behavior of moderators in this forum.

The word "NZ" was used as a synonym for "intolerant" and that is an accurate description of moderators in this forum.
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For heavens sake, why you guys dont understand, that this word has a very deep meaning here, especially for germans. Why not simply use the word "intolerant", we all know what that means, and then we will not react the way you are wondering about!
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The word "NZ" was used as a synonym for "intolerant" and that is an accurate description of moderators in this forum.
Maybe that's your opinion - but not mine (about both statements!). If our moderators would be like Nazis you would be under arrest or dead now! That's more than "intolerant". How about you would read Wikipedia.
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Roy,
The word "NZ" was used as a synonym for "intolerant" and that is an accurate description of moderators in this forum.
Mind supporting your point of view with some facts?

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Roy wrote:Yes, drag out the Jews
Noone has to drag out Jews. Just have a look in any serious History Book and there will jump out any tenth of millions of killed people.
to defend behavior of moderators in this forum.
What do you refer to? Where did I defend the moderators?
I easily could have done but I think they don't need defence.
The word "NZ" was used as a synonym for "intolerant"
You could also use the word brqlp as a sysnonym for e.g. "software" but you should not expect that anyone without you will understand that meaning.
and that is an accurate description of moderators in this forum.
I never heard tolerant people complain about the intolerance of others.

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