Well, the Beta was spread illegally and neither the author nor the moderators can officially support that. If you were the author of a program that is being spread illegally, I doubt you would welcome discussions about it on your forum where you provide support for your legal customers.At first I was really disgusted with the whole attitude toward the leaked beta (discussions are not welcome here, bla-bla-bla)
It is like a slap in your face. "Hi, I got this leaked cracked beta, but the thumbnails don't work, what's the matter?"
We did not disallow discussions completely, though.
"Brutally violated" - may that be another "slight exaggeration"?then you really pissed me off when that other one brutally violated a couple of my messages.
Again, let me make it clear, we only follow the guidelines. Do not blame the policemen for adhering to the law.
If you find the guidelines bad, read the threads where we explain why the guidelines are the way they are. If you have a good counter-argument, present it. We will certainly consider it, as our primary goal, contrary to some's belief, is not to piss people off.
I see that.Seriously, I find your performance as moderators inadequate.
On the other hand I also see that out of the three people obviously having a problem with the moderators, two did not adhere to the forum rules and have been advised to do so, and one does not like the forum word filter.
That is the way we are advised to act according to the guidelines. I already explained why we do not delete posts / threads if not absolutely necessary and why our moderation is "visible".You are way too visible here (as moderators).
Present a counter-argument and we can discuss it. Saying "it tends to piss people off" might be true, but does not defeat the argument I presented earlier.
As I said, placing comments is not a pleasant task.
Both are according to the forum rules and moderation guidelines.Your interference threshold is very low, and your interference methods are improper.
It is not the nature of the universe, it is the forum rules, actually.preach inside someone else's message about nature of the universe
Yes we are. If the discussion goes off-topic or breaches the rules we have to moderate it.You are here not to shape the discussion.
Certainly not thoughts, but off-topic or insulting posts.Not to filter thoughts.
Who is then going to look after the forum rules being adhered to?If you want to influence the way a thread is going, get a different nick without the word "Moderator" in it, and then rant your subjective opinion on any subject all you want.
I already explained why we do not delete messages but rather post comments, if necessary. If you bring up a new argument that has not been stated before, we will not be moving in circles in this discussion.But as a moderator, don't touch anyone's message unless you think it is so bad that it absolutely has to be deleted, and if it is, then delete it without any explanation or way of recourse.
You expressed your opinion. I would still like you to present some facts as a base of any further discussion.
Our facts are the forum rules, the moderator guidelines and the posts we have commented according to the former two.
Maxwish, VadiMGP, djk,
We will not close a discussion about (at least partly) moderation if we do not consider it absolutely necessary.
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