[TC11.50b2] Visual glitches

[MaxX]

Well, yes. I agree that we need that big space for all the text. Or just find better sentence to say the same thins with less words.

[petermad]

2Usher

It won't fit in a single row with "Traktuj archiwa jak katalogi".

I was talking about plenty of space IF the setting was move FROM the "Packer" configuration dialog TO the "Pack files" dialog (opened with Alt+F5)

Like in this mock-up: https://tcmd.madsenworld.dk/suggestedpackdialog.png .

[Usher]

2petermad
I was talking about your suggestion (support++) versus 2MaxX suggestion: viewtopic.php?t=84176&start=15#p462372

[AntonyD]

2petermad

Like in this mock-up

Yes! this is your suggestion MUCH better than what is currently done on the tab in the Configuration dialog!

[wjharing]

Besides the visual glitches, I find that the whole interface looks a bit outdated with all the lines and (square) boxes. Functionality wise, TC is by far the best tool out there for me, but it would be great to have some kind of visual refresh, to make it fit closer to the current design standards. eg. OneCommander looks more fresh.

Of course, many will argue that functionality goes above design, and I get that, but that doesn't mean design should be ignored either. Perhaps something for a TC v12.0?

[ghisler(Author)]

What else would you use to group settings together?

[ghisler(Author)]

I was talking about plenty of space IF the setting was move FROM the "Packer" configuration dialog TO the "Pack files" dialog (opened with Alt+F5)

While this would be nice, there are unfortunately problems which prevent me from doing it:
1. When opening a file from an archive for editing (F4) or opening it in a program (Enter), the file will be re-packed to the archive when it has been changed. This also uses the "set archive date to newest" flag.
2. Synchronize dirs also uses the "set archive date to newest" flag.

[sa16]

Maybe then display (and edit) the setting in both dialogs: "Packer" and "Pack files"?

[petermad]

1. When opening a file from an archive for editing (F4) or opening it in a program (Enter), the file will be re-packed to the archive when it has been changed. This also uses the "set archive date to newest" flag.

Write in the help that the setting will be used also for re-packing and synchronizing - it should actually have been in the Help for the "Packer" configuration already.

Whether is is set in one dialog or the other, the user still has to remember what setting he has previously chosen when editing files inside an archive and when synchronizing. The selection in the "Pack files" dialog should be universal for all supporting packers, not just for the last used one - just as if it had been set in the "Packer" configuration

[ghisler(Author)]

For now I will keep it only in the main configuration dialog. Maybe I will add it to the pack dialog later as a temporary option. But then people would complain why they have to check the option every time...

[sa16]

The InternalZipRate (or 7zRate) option can be changed in two dialogs. Why not also do with the ZipSetDateToLatest option...

Add:
And both of these options (InternalZipRate and ZipSetDateToLatest) are taken into account when editing files within the archive and during synchronization.

[petermad]

2ghisler(Author)

1. When opening a file from an archive for editing (F4) or opening it in a program (Enter), the file will be re-packed to the archive when it has been changed. This also uses the "set archive date to newest" flag.
2. Synchronize dirs also uses the "set archive date to newest" flag.

I still cannot see the difference between setting it permanently from the Alt+F5 dialog or from the Configuration dialog - in both cases the user has made his choice.

If the user does not want, that Editing a file inside the archive causes the archive date to be updated to the current date, then enabling this option or not does not matter, since all packers set the date to the current date when repacking an edited file - because the edited file will the be the newest file (unless the archive has predated files in it).

Deleting or adding a file is another issue (also when synchronizing), since the deleted file could have been the newest or the added file is the newest.

But if the user wants the archive date adjusted in those cases it is still something, that he has decide before adding, deleting or synchronizing files in an archive - I believe that if the user in general wants the archive date set to newest file when packing, he is most likely to also want that when repacking.

If the user wants to occasionally use the opposite option to set the archive date to newest file date, then when Adding files (with F5) the option would be right there in the "Pack files" dialog - easy to change.

When synchronizing archives the user would have to either open the Configuration dialog for Packers OR he would have to open the Alt+F5 dialog to change the option - I find Alt+F5 easier then. But best of all would be a separate setting for this in the Synchronize dialog - maybe even only visible if one of the sides is an archive. If the minimum width of the Synchronize dialog was made bigger - then there is space for such an option on the right side of the "duplicates" / "singles" buttons.


About visual glitches - in TC 11.50b4 the bottom line of the ARJ group box is now missing - only in 64bit TC 11.50b4 and only under Windows 7 and 8.1
see: https://tcmd.madsenworld.dk/packergroupbox1150b4.png

[ghisler(Author)]

I still cannot see the difference between setting it permanently from the Alt+F5 dialog or from the Configuration dialog - in both cases the user has made his choice.

When you install TC, open an archive, edit a file with F4 and then pack it back, you never get to see the option to set the archive date to that of the newest file.

About visual glitches - in TC 11.50b4 the bottom line of the ARJ group box is now missing

The distance between the group boxes is exactly the same. The overlaps happen due to the scaling of the dialog, which results in rounding errors. I will probably have to adjust them in code after each scaling operation when they overlap.

[petermad]

When you install TC, open an archive, edit a file with F4 and then pack it back, you never get to see the option to set the archive date to that of the newest file.

Aha, I see - the first time I press F4 inside an archive after installing a new TC, the Packer configuration dialog is opened and the user is presented for the archive date option.

But in TC 11.03 you didn't have that concern, because the first time I pressed F4 inside a ZIP file in TC 11.03 the Packer configuration dialog was also opened - but back then the archive date option was in the ZIP Packer configuration - so the new user didn't see that option either.

[AntonyD]

Also to the same problem I would refer to the state of the font name output in their settings dialog for Lister
https://i.ibb.co/bLLZr1B/2024-10-31-224221.png
There is no logic to display all the font styles/characteristics on this button in a "special" format.
ALL of them will be perfectly visible when the user clicks on it and falls into the detailed settings of this font.
It is MUCH MORE correct and useful to display ONLY one font name! BUT at the same time display in the same font!

And all the characteristics can be displayed in a tooltip that could appear when the mouse cursor approaches the button.

And the problem that remains is the fact that for the default state of the adjacent checkboxes - on the buttons
at this moment there is NO information AT ALL about the font that now seems to be selected by default.
ONLY "..." I can see.
And even if I disable any of the checkboxes, nothing will change on the button's label! The same "..."!!!
That is, it feels like the checkmark is NOT responsible for ANYTHING here - on the right side!