TAB: 2, 4 or 8 spaces. Make it configurable and 4 as default
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TAB: 2, 4 or 8 spaces. Make it configurable and 4 as default
Please add "Tab Ident Size: [ 4 ]" option to configuration of internal viewer of Total Commander.
TAB size of 4 spaces is the most optimal size especially for code (because its visibly distinguishable not too small and not too large soma many levels of code would disappear to the right side of the screen.
P.S.: TAB's allows everybody to view document with indent size they like. Coders who use spaces instead of tabs are selfish bastards because, they are locking everybody else to their tastes.
TAB size of 4 spaces is the most optimal size especially for code (because its visibly distinguishable not too small and not too large soma many levels of code would disappear to the right side of the screen.
P.S.: TAB's allows everybody to view document with indent size they like. Coders who use spaces instead of tabs are selfish bastards because, they are locking everybody else to their tastes.
I voted no because it is already configurable - with [Lister]TabWidth= - and configurability seems to be the subject of this poll.
But I can support that it could be configurable via the GUI - I don't think it is such an exotic setting that it couldn't be there.
To Moderators - could one of you please move this thread to the "Total Commander Polls (English)" section ?
But I can support that it could be configurable via the GUI - I don't think it is such an exotic setting that it couldn't be there.
To Moderators - could one of you please move this thread to the "Total Commander Polls (English)" section ?
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+ for GUI
2petermad
Hello Peter !
• I also voted “NO”, but I agree that the option should be in the Lister GUI settings…
… but whether THIS SEVEN-MONTH OLD SUGGESTION is considered, because I don't see WHERE such an option could be added…
• Please, notice that this option was already planned on the original mock-up
FR
Claude
Clo

• I also voted “NO”, but I agree that the option should be in the Lister GUI settings…
… but whether THIS SEVEN-MONTH OLD SUGGESTION is considered, because I don't see WHERE such an option could be added…

• Please, notice that this option was already planned on the original mock-up


Claude
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It would be nice to be able to change the tabsize setting within the File Compare Tool. Though this is a setting that can be changed in wincmd.ini and doesn't need a restart of TC to take effect.
The converse is not true, trying to change the colors for lister requires a shutdown/restart of TC. And calculating the number TC needs for such is a PITA.
@Clo, I'm pretty sure the Lister Config could be easily changed:
The fields for Text: [81_______] ..... Binary: [75________] take up far more space than they need.
Text: [81__] ... Binary: [75__] ... Tab: [4__]
Even adjusting for other language considerations shouldn't be a problem if the edit box for the numbers are made smaller.
The converse is not true, trying to change the colors for lister requires a shutdown/restart of TC. And calculating the number TC needs for such is a PITA.
@Clo, I'm pretty sure the Lister Config could be easily changed:
The fields for Text: [81_______] ..... Binary: [75________] take up far more space than they need.
Text: [81__] ... Binary: [75__] ... Tab: [4__]
Even adjusting for other language considerations shouldn't be a problem if the edit box for the numbers are made smaller.
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2Balderstrom
Hello !
• Maybe the option of the current topic could be added via a deep redesign of this dialogue…
… but then ?
- Please, just glance THERE to get a clue of how it's shown in French…
Narrow font, 8, normal, bigger is impossible.
- For instance, the caption of the Lister plug-ins button must be so shortened that many users didn't find it !
- Moving the Mutimedia options onto another page - opened via a unambiguous named button- would be much more comfortable
and provide room to add future options on each box…
«To govern is to plan» (French proverb…).
- FYI, I'm not the only asking for an enlargement¦improvement of this box for years…
… and I dislike to waste my last years in jobs made for nothing…
KR
Claude
Clo

• Maybe the option of the current topic could be added via a deep redesign of this dialogue…
… but then ?
- Please, just glance THERE to get a clue of how it's shown in French…

- For instance, the caption of the Lister plug-ins button must be so shortened that many users didn't find it !
- Moving the Mutimedia options onto another page - opened via a unambiguous named button- would be much more comfortable
and provide room to add future options on each box…
«To govern is to plan» (French proverb…).
- FYI, I'm not the only asking for an enlargement¦improvement of this box for years…
… and I dislike to waste my last years in jobs made for nothing…

Claude
Clo
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Just do it accurately. Here I draw it for English and Russian: http://imagehost.spark-media.ru/i/5F5AA461-385C-DCDA-8439-0A67723C7C80.pngBalderstrom wrote:The fields for Text: [81_______] ..... Binary: [75________] take up far more space than they need.
Text: [81__] ... Binary: [75__] ... Tab: [4__]
Even adjusting for other language considerations shouldn't be a problem if the edit box for the numbers are made smaller.
There is also lots of space for that change in Danish: http://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/listconf.png
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2petermad
Hello !
• Preaching to make cheeseparing economies will not help in getting a really better GUI by there…
- You simply postpone the issue, it's not solved about any other new needed option to add…
- So, I repeat : And then ?
KR
Claude
Clo
2petermad

• Preaching to make cheeseparing economies will not help in getting a really better GUI by there…
- You simply postpone the issue, it's not solved about any other new needed option to add…
- So, I repeat : And then ?


Claude
Clo
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Hi, folks.
I voted YES, although I know the wincmd.ini parameter TabWidth and had set it to 4 a very long time ago.
I voted YES, because configuring the tabwidth is not such an exotic action and it should be configurable inside the lister configuration dialogue.
About the question whether or not the current dialogue has got some space left where additional options can be placed: As a T.C. user, I cannot really be bothered to think too much about this question. It is Christian who will determine whether the dialogue box needs resizing, re-arranging or a general redesign.
Kind regards,
Karl
I voted YES, although I know the wincmd.ini parameter TabWidth and had set it to 4 a very long time ago.
I voted YES, because configuring the tabwidth is not such an exotic action and it should be configurable inside the lister configuration dialogue.
About the question whether or not the current dialogue has got some space left where additional options can be placed: As a T.C. user, I cannot really be bothered to think too much about this question. It is Christian who will determine whether the dialogue box needs resizing, re-arranging or a general redesign.
Kind regards,
Karl
Just to add this...
YES for making this configurable
NO for making it default to 4.
8 is a standard tab size and THAT should be default. Defaults should always be most common, best for most uses or standardized values. 8 is defacto standard for tab size but of course you need an option to customize it for viewing code where tabsize of 4 is better.
There could also be automatic tab size adjustments where TC would recognize filetype and adjust tabs to that. For example, 4 for *.cpp, *.php etc. but for example *.txt could be 8. Of course, that too needs to be configurable if implemented.
YES for making this configurable
NO for making it default to 4.
8 is a standard tab size and THAT should be default. Defaults should always be most common, best for most uses or standardized values. 8 is defacto standard for tab size but of course you need an option to customize it for viewing code where tabsize of 4 is better.
There could also be automatic tab size adjustments where TC would recognize filetype and adjust tabs to that. For example, 4 for *.cpp, *.php etc. but for example *.txt could be 8. Of course, that too needs to be configurable if implemented.
Lister Option #7: "UTF-8"
[Lister]
TabWidth=4
TabWidth parameter does not work when Lister menu option #7: "UTF-8" is selected.
It works only if option #1: "Text Only" is selected.

TabWidth=4
TabWidth parameter does not work when Lister menu option #7: "UTF-8" is selected.
It works only if option #1: "Text Only" is selected.



I canNOT confirm this - here it works the same for both ANSI and UTF-8 files in TC8.0b9 x64 and x86.TabWidth parameter does not work when Lister menu option #7: "UTF-8" is selected.
It works only if option #1: "Text Only" is selected.
This applies to UTF-8 files both with and without BOM.
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